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WHY DO MOST HEAD COACHES AND MANAGERS TAKE A TEAM?

by oc softball coach » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:20 pm

WHY DO MOST HEAD COACHES AND MANAGERS TAKE A TEAM?
MORE PITCHING TIME FOR MOLLY?
MORE INFIELD TIME FOR SUSSY?

WHO KNOW SOME TEAMS OUT IN THE TRAVEL WORLD WITH BELOW AVG. PLAYERS WITH DADDY TAKING A TEAM??...THATS PISSING ME OFF!! DONT TAKE OVER A TEAM. MAKE YOUR KID BETTER INSTEAD OFF TAKING A TEAM AND BEING A DADDY ON A BUCKET...AND NOT COACHING A TEAM THE RIGHT WAY...
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by Izzy98Abby01Grace04 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:25 pm

Sounds just like a Mom on my team. :D
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by Baller » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:09 pm

oc softball coach wrote:WHY DO MOST HEAD COACHES AND MANAGERS TAKE A TEAM?
MORE PITCHING TIME FOR MOLLY?
MORE INFIELD TIME FOR SUSSY?

WHO KNOW SOME TEAMS OUT IN THE TRAVEL WORLD WITH BELOW AVG. PLAYERS WITH DADDY TAKING A TEAM??...THATS PISSING ME OFF!! DONT TAKE OVER A TEAM. MAKE YOUR KID BETTER INSTEAD OFF TAKING A TEAM AND BEING A DADDY ON A BUCKET...AND NOT COACHING A TEAM THE RIGHT WAY...


I'm far more concerned with your grammar! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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by basher1 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:57 am

Daddy-Ball has frustrated us all at one point or another. It comes in many forms...there's Daddy-Ball, Friend-Ball, etc., etc. Daddy-Ball I can deal with but Friend-Ball (where the favortism extends to a whole group of players and is not limited to one or two coaches daughters) is way worse. You are not going to get rid of this. Nepotism has been around for as long as there are humans and extends not only to softball but all areas of business, sports, etc. The best thing you can do is call or email the coach/manager of the team you are considering trying out for and flat out ask him/her if their daughter (or any other coach's daughter) is on the team and what position(s) they play. Be blunt. If a coach's daughter plays the same position(s) as your daughter then I would highly suggest looking elsewhere. Even if the coach says "all positions are earned" in all likelyhood it is not probable that your kid will see too much time. I'm just being real....I would also ask if the "core" girls all go to the same school or are from the same neighborhood. I have found that when the majority of the girls are from the same school/area there lies a tendency for cliques to occur where the girls that are not from the same school/area are shut out. It can be extremely counterproductive on many levels. One last thought...one way sure fire cure for "daddyballitus" is to tell your daughter to just work her ass off and get SO good that all this other bull@#% won't matter. Again...just being real.
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by Imperial SB Dad » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:01 pm

Caps lock, Caps Lock, CAPS LOCK!!!!! :lol:
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by oc softball coach » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:31 pm

Imperial SB Dad wrote:Caps lock, Caps Lock, CAPS LOCK!!!!! :lol:



I NEED A NEW KEYBOARD...DID NOT THINK ANYBODY WOULD NOTICE..SHIT :cry:
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by coachEd » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:07 pm

You seem to have issues with a dad who was coaching an American Athletics team (based on your previous posts about AAs teams/org). As for AA's, they have been a class organization for a long time and will continue to be for a long time. And no, my kid doesnt play for AAs; its just an observation from years of playing travel softball.

Dads have been coaching for a long time too. Heck, look at some of the top 12/14u teams, including FC and OCBB teams for example:

Victory USA 98 = dad coaching with kid on team (National Champs how many times?)
OCBB-Espalin = dad coaching and mom with kid on team
OCBB-Briggs = dad coaching with kid on team
FC- Sota = dad coaching with kid on team
FC-Kay = dad coaching with kid on team
FC-Brashear = dad coaching with kid on team (National champs)
etc, etc., etc. .....

So what's your issue about dads coaching a team? Some end up being good at it, others give it a try then give up, and yes, some just keep on going even though they probably should have given it up a long time ago. Everyone has a different reason for starting out coaching, but what difference does it make why?

I will say that something that we learned with DD # 1, even if you are a good dad/coach, do your kid a favor and give her the chance to play for someone else. Even if your kid is a stud player, she will be better off having to listen to someone else, respect the coach, and "truely" earn playing time. It has been said many times that the toughest position for any player is being the coach's daughter.

So to all the dad coaches out there: Thanks and keep up the hard work, but find it within yourself to one day let DD go play for another coach.
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by Fifteen's » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:24 pm

coachEd wrote:You seem to have issues with a dad who was coaching an American Athletics team (based on your previous posts about AAs teams/org). As for AA's, they have been a class organization for a long time and will continue to be for a long time. And no, my kid doesnt play for AAs; its just an observation from years of playing travel softball.

Dads have been coaching for a long time too. Heck, look at some of the top 12/14u teams, including FC and OCBB teams for example:

Victory USA 98 = dad coaching with kid on team (National Champs how many times?)
OCBB-Espalin = dad coaching and mom with kid on team
OCBB-Briggs = dad coaching with kid on team
FC- Sota = dad coaching with kid on team
FC-Kay = dad coaching with kid on team
FC-Brashear = dad coaching with kid on team (National champs)
etc, etc., etc. .....

So what's your issue about dads coaching a team? Some end up being good at it, others give it a try then give up, and yes, some just keep on going even though they probably should have given it up a long time ago. Everyone has a different reason for starting out coaching, but what difference does it make why?

I will say that something that we learned with DD # 1, even if you are a good dad/coach, do your kid a favor and give her the chance to play for someone else. Even if your kid is a stud player, she will be better off having to listen to someone else, respect the coach, and "truely" earn playing time. It has been said many times that the toughest position for any player is being the coach's daughter.

So to all the dad coaches out there: Thanks and keep up the hard work, but find it within yourself to one day let DD go play for another coach.


AMEN brother!!! :D
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by Makina » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:30 am

basher1 wrote:Daddy-Ball has frustrated us all at one point or another. It comes in many forms...there's Daddy-Ball, Friend-Ball, etc., etc. Daddy-Ball I can deal with but Friend-Ball (where the favortism extends to a whole group of players and is not limited to one or two coaches daughters) is way worse. You are not going to get rid of this. Nepotism has been around for as long as there are humans and extends not only to softball but all areas of business, sports, etc. The best thing you can do is call or email the coach/manager of the team you are considering trying out for and flat out ask him/her if their daughter (or any other coach's daughter) is on the team and what position(s) they play. Be blunt. If a coach's daughter plays the same position(s) as your daughter then I would highly suggest looking elsewhere. Even if the coach says "all positions are earned" in all likelyhood it is not probable that your kid will see too much time. I'm just being real....I would also ask if the "core" girls all go to the same school or are from the same neighborhood. I have found that when the majority of the girls are from the same school/area there lies a tendency for cliques to occur where the girls that are not from the same school/area are shut out. It can be extremely counterproductive on many levels. One last thought...one way sure fire cure for "daddyballitus" is to tell your daughter to just work her ass off and get SO good that all this other bull@#% won't matter. Again...just being real.


I like the last response. If your kid gets so good, the teams that operate this way typically are just average teams. So your kid will actually be good enough to play for a very good team and thus none of the local/daddy ball nepotism going on. Almost every coach has favorites and if your kid is good enough they probably become one of the favorites, otherwise just move on. There are plenty of teams that are looking for good players.
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by Informal » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:12 pm

Fifteen... I have located you a suitable pic for your avatar!

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