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Final four st paddy las vegas

by juandoe » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:51 am

Here is the lopsided bracket..
http://www.lvtourneys.com/StPaddysDay/brackets/10U.pdf
And Pool play results...
http://www.lvtourneys.com/StPaddysDay/pools/10U.pdf

Clearly, you can see the top side of the bracket is lopsided in USA Athletics favor. ASA dropped the ball on that bracket setup. Not USA Athletics. USA beat who they had to and got there. But to say the Lil Saints are a "great" team is going overboard. They went 1-4 at TCS OCCC,their only win coming against a just formed Choppers team. And went 1-2 against So Cal teams in Vegas. Beating Case Batbusters by 1 run. They are "great" team in Arizona. But average team in So Cal. And no, USA Athletics are not as good, or better than Firecrackers or OC Batbusters. They have a strong pitcher that will keep them in every game, and a couple of big bats. But 1-12 or 1-9. They are clearly not as deep as those other 2. They tied American Pastime so it hard to make that case for them. Right now this is where I would rank the teams.

1. Gamers- So far, no one has beat them. 5-0 in tournaments. 8-0 in vegas
2. Firecrackers 01- Great team, with great talent. Just can't get over the hump. OC Batbusters or Gamers are always in the way. 7-1 in vegas
3. OC Batbusters- Another great team with great talent. But, they have fallen apart in the last inning of the last two tourneys when they had the lead. Just barely got by Strikeforce 01.
4(tie) So Cal Athletics- Picked up a good pitcher from Case and keep on getting better. Playing some good ball right now.
4.(tie)Firecrackers 02- Good showing in Vegas. Had one off game. But still won the losers side of the bracket going 6-1-1 for the weekend.
6. Corona Angels- MIA in Vegas. But a very talented team.
7. USA Athletics- Strong pitcher that throws hard. Playing some good ball right now. Need more bats. 5-1 in Vegas
8. Case Batbusters- 4-1 in Vegas. Lost a close game to Lil Saints. But are a very up and down team Lost a good pitcher and it does not help that they have been playing the side circuit.


I know, now is not the right time. But wondering if there is still interest in a friendly. Like they did in 14's with all these top teams there. Can everyone agree on a date in the future? Send me a PM if you are a coach that is interested and what dates you have open.
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by socalfan01 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:20 am

USA has played FC 02 three times and won each time.

USA has played So Cal Athletics once and beat them by 5 runs.
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by Oufan22 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:59 am

Congrats to fc 98!! My daughter tells me these girls are very nice and humble. I can say the same 4 the parents as well. It's funny at nationals last year everyone was hating on them.. Lol I guess that's what happens when u go on a roll like that? Once again congrats fc98..
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by Fastpitch4Life » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:45 am

juandoe wrote:Here is the lopsided bracket..
http://www.lvtourneys.com/StPaddysDay/brackets/10U.pdf
And Pool play results...
http://www.lvtourneys.com/StPaddysDay/pools/10U.pdf

Clearly, you can see the top side of the bracket is lopsided in USA Athletics favor. ASA dropped the ball on that bracket setup. Not USA Athletics. USA beat who they had to and got there. But to say the Lil Saints are a "great" team is going overboard. They went 1-4 at TCS OCCC,their only win coming against a just formed Choppers team. And went 1-2 against So Cal teams in Vegas. Beating Case Batbusters by 1 run. They are "great" team in Arizona. But average team in So Cal. And no, USA Athletics are not as good, or better than Firecrackers or OC Batbusters. They have a strong pitcher that will keep them in every game, and a couple of big bats. But 1-12 or 1-9. They are clearly not as deep as those other 2. They tied American Pastime so it hard to make that case for them. Right now this is where I would rank the teams.

1. Gamers- So far, no one has beat them. 5-0 in tournaments. 8-0 in vegas
2. Firecrackers 01- Great team, with great talent. Just can't get over the hump. OC Batbusters or Gamers are always in the way. 7-1 in vegas
3. OC Batbusters- Another great team with great talent. But, they have fallen apart in the last inning of the last two tourneys when they had the lead. Just barely got by Strikeforce 01.
4(tie) So Cal Athletics- Picked up a good pitcher from Case and keep on getting better. Playing some good ball right now.
4.(tie)Firecrackers 02- Good showing in Vegas. Had one off game. But still won the losers side of the bracket going 6-1-1 for the weekend.
6. Corona Angels- MIA in Vegas. But a very talented team.
7. USA Athletics- Strong pitcher that throws hard. Playing some good ball right now. Need more bats. 5-1 in Vegas
8. Case Batbusters- 4-1 in Vegas. Lost a close game to Lil Saints. But are a very up and down team Lost a good pitcher and it does not help that they have been playing the side circuit.


I know, now is not the right time. But wondering if there is still interest in a friendly. Like they did in 14's with all these top teams there. Can everyone agree on a date in the future? Send me a PM if you are a coach that is interested and what dates you have open.


Juan:

I'm with you on your assessments. You do get around :mrgreen:
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by Fastpitch4Life » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:58 am

BigGuns wrote:
softball00daddy wrote:All u 10u parents make me laugh! Now that I'm in 12u,

As far as your top four teams...what has ocbb done this young season? Any championship games so far?

What about CA? from what i rememember at Huntington Beach, they lost to fc 02...and it sounds like usa has beat fc 02, so should that put USA in the top four, knocking out CA?

Gamers is without a doubt a championship caliber team. no question about it. i've already heard some rumbling about some questionable ethics on their side after that Vegas game last night, but who knows what really happened! (Gossip!!)

I haven't had a opportunity to really see fc 01 yet...they looked good in a friendly against a very low team...and i saw them in the fall, but that was then, this is now!

What happened to Bownet? they were in the finals at HB (over OCBB, i think?)...did they somehow take the easy way in, so it doesn't count, much like what is being talked about for the LV tourney?

Case BB was a good team in the fall, and this forum ranked them at #4, but it does look like they're in need of a little help. still a good team!

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Now that your in 12u. I keep reeding this and laughing idiot. I have 5 daughters in Travel ball, all ages. 12U are just as bad as 10u, then 14u, 16u, and 18u get worse. Calling out all the top teams too. Nice

I will help you
FC02- has done a lot for a first year team. Off and on which you get for a first year team but good. Getting better every day

FC01- Best group of girls when it comes to talent. But i know most of them so I favor them, Coaches lack the skills sadly

CA- They hide and avoid everyone, but when they pop up they do well- plus coaches are strong

Gamers- Scrappy team that pulls off the wins. Don't see the complete talent but they are out in BFE so dont know any of these girls. Coaches seem pretty good. Manage to win. Cant say I heard the "Rumors of their Ethics but you are in 12U so you would know" HaHaHaHa- Way to try and make this team look bad

OCBB- By far the best team out there. Best girls, Best coaches, BEST Parents. Only reason they havent won is they havent had the easy road playing Gamers yet. JK- But cant wait to play them.

Case- Please they are not even on the same level

Bownet- Good but think they went back to Rec Ball

USA Athletics- Again not in the same group

Keep up the talking makes for good reading


OK Big Guns. What position does your DD play for the OCBB? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: My experience is that no team has the BEST parents!! :o
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by artomatic » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:59 am

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
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by urbummed » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:02 am

Spas is right, USA not Asa made those brackets :idea:
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by socalfan01 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:09 am

I do think the tournament director should get feedback. ASA doesn't create the schedule.
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by realitycheck » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:21 am

Who cares? Let the girls and teams play, learn and have fun. You people should put this much effort in saving money for college because sadly, most of these girls won't be playing Softball in college. Then what? Who will be lol-ing then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :o :o :o
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by Fastpitch4Life » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:31 am



You know you love this stuff. What else are you going to do during HS ball??
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