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Mad coaches yelling at players help?

by ontheblack » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:47 pm

TheCloser wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:List of teams with "abusive" head coaches in 12-U due to yelling (from what I've witnessed) at girls on the field;
USA A's 98
AA's 98
CA 98
VICTORY USA 98
RAWLINGS 98
DIRT DOGS98
SMASH 98
AM PASTIME 98
FC98
BB98
etc..............The list goes on...
I guess since i've seen practically every teams coach "yell" at a player at least once or twice in the duration of a game against my dd's team, that would make them all abusive... right!?
"What a bunch of neandrethals!"??? :o Someone please put a stop to it!!!! :o
Put your precious lil princesses in ballet then... oh wait a minute, there are coaches there that yell too :cry:
What'll we do!!!???
PLEASE... Give it a rest :o :shock: :lol:


If you listen to some of the tree huggers on this thread the only logical thing to do now is quit those teams because DD can't field a fly ball with any type of pressure or get a key hit without someone in her ear. :lol:

I don't know how people can play for Marty Tyson. :roll:


It's a shame that so many on here either dont very read well or dont comprehend what they read.

No one said kids cant perform with pressure or a coach who screams. What was said, almost across the board, is that our kids can and do perform and THRIVE without that or in spite of it.

I dont question the abilities of these coaches who scream and yell, but I know that a Tony Rico could take the same team and have them perform at or above the same level without having to raise his voice.

Also, please understand that raising one's voice occasionally is not what we are talking about here. One coach my DD adores yelled at her during one game to "pull her head out". It was exactly the right thing at the right time, but it had much more impact because he rarely had to yell beyond the need to be heard.

I think one thing that is lost in this discussion is the impression these coaches make on the girls beyond softball. I know a few that have played for Campbell and credit him as being one of the best coaches they have had and appreciated the experience, but wouldnt want to play for him again. I know many who have been coached by Tony Rico and think he is also the best coach they have ever had. The difference is how they speak of Rico once their playing days are over. Its the respect they have for him as a person that makes the difference to me.

I see softball as so much more than just a game or a ticket to college. Because of that, I see very good coaches who miss the teachable moments that go way beyond softball. Given the stature these men have in their players lives, I think its short sighted and a shame.
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by 6-4-3=2 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:00 pm

sofbal1234 wrote:List of teams with "abusive" head coaches in 12-U due to yelling (from what I've witnessed) at girls on the field;
USA A's 98
AA's 98
CA 98
VICTORY USA 98
RAWLINGS 98
DIRT DOGS98
SMASH 98
AM PASTIME 98
FC98
BB98
etc..............The list goes on...




Why wasn't SF98 mentioned on your list?...
Oh wait a minute... aren't they the team that I heard just folded because their Head Coach was one of those "mad coaches that yelled at his players?"
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by sofbal1234 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:12 pm

Did someone say "lack of comprehension skills"???? :o :shock: 8-)
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by porcupine » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:13 pm

ontheblack wrote: It's a shame that so many on here either dont very read well or dont comprehend what they read.


I agree. Technically someone yelling may be being positive. Yelling across the field to publicly congratulate a player for a great play is awesome. The public humiliation need not be loud to be harmful. Even the quiet coach who constantly reminds the players that they are lucky to have him, are not good enough to be on the team, can be easily replaced, can't field as well as a kindergartner, will never play in an important game, etc., can drive a kid away from the game.
Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.
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by ontheblack » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:17 pm

sofbal1234 wrote:Did someone say "lack of comprehension skills"???? :o :shock: 8-)


No. I said "dont comprehend what they read", but thanks for illustrating my point.
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by sofbal1234 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:39 pm

ontheblack wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:Did someone say "lack of comprehension skills"???? :o :shock: 8-)


No. I said "dont comprehend what they read", but thanks for illustrating my point.

Wasn't referring to to your comments but was pointing out 6-4-3=2's remark about not understanding what etc... meant. :ugeek:
Out of curious ontheblack, why is it you seem to know so much about this game and are so quick to knock people who lack your superior intelligence on subjects, but you don't coach yourself?
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by sofbal1234 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:25 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:Did someone say "lack of comprehension skills"???? :o :shock: 8-)

AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH :x :x
You make my head hurt

I know... you've already made that point.
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by ontheblack » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:42 pm

sofbal1234 wrote:
ontheblack wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:Did someone say "lack of comprehension skills"???? :o :shock: 8-)


No. I said "dont comprehend what they read", but thanks for illustrating my point.

Wasn't referring to to your comments but was pointing out 6-4-3=2's remark about not understanding what etc... meant. :ugeek:
Out of curious ontheblack, why is it you seem to know so much about this game and are so quick to knock people who lack your superior intelligence on subjects, but you don't coach yourself?


Its a frickin discussion board. You cant handle debate?

Someone once said, "Half of being smart is knowing what you dont know". I know my limits. I cant coach my kid anymore and get her to the level that she wants to reach. That has nothing to do with me having a 10 cent opinion.
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by lunch _money » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:10 pm

Come to the Corona angels Christmas party and here the testimony from pre, current and post softball players and you'll understand why and what mt has done mentally for these d1 players and you'll change your tune. Life is about accountability, performing under pressure and getting better at what you do.
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by fastpitchdad05 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:40 pm

Who needs to change their tune? I haven't read a single critical Tyson post on this subject.
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