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UPDATED! 12u Top Team Ranking – Pre ASA Nationals Poll!

by bracketologist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Under the Radar wrote:Out of this entire list of top 20 or 23 who is the most under rated teams & the most over rated teams??? Just curious?


I have to agree with Valley Tribe at #20 - way to low. I wonder if they picked up a pitcher at their Dec 27th open workout. Cal Thunder? Maybe but it seems they are looking for more then 3 players for Spring.... not sure who left the team.

#2 under rated = now is Bomb Squad 96, adding a top pitcher makes them a top 20 team. Let's hope they do the right thing and limited her innings, and don't expect her to pitch every "major" game.

Let's hope the parents of 12u pitchers, take the advice of the 16u/18u parents and limited their dd's innings.

Both CA96, Batbusters-M and CA-L are doing the right thing in trying to locate an additional pitcher...... I think with the way ASA puts top teams in the same bracket and with how close the teams are this year, you have to build a team that is capable of qualifying from the losers bracket. If you can stay in the winners bracket at Nationals and State, you can get away with 2 pitchers - but if you lose.......

Most over rated teams? 1. There are a couple at the mid to lower end but I expect them to be out of the poll by Feb. 2. Any of the top teams that can't beat two of the top seven teams in back to back bracket play games.
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by Skarp » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:01 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
#2 under rated = now is Bomb Squad 96, adding a top pitcher makes them a top 20 team. Let's hope they do the right thing and limited her innings, and don't expect her to pitch every "major" game.


You're kidding, right? I thought you stated you have followed these age groups for the last couple of years. If you had you would know that they have always ridden her hard; week in, week out. Look at regionals last year, I think she threw every game. Now she is on probably the weakest team she has played for to date. Where do you think the burden will fall?

You didn't even need to see the games to know which ones she pitched. It was always wins with scores of 1-0, 2-1, 2-0, etc., and then they would get bounced 13-2 or some such. When she ran out of gas, that team was toast (talking last year).
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by bracketologist » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:12 am

Spazsdad wrote:
#2 under rated = now is Bomb Squad 96, adding a top pitcher makes them a top 20 team. Let's hope they do the right thing and limited her innings, and don't expect her to pitch every "major" game.


You're kidding, right? I thought you stated you have followed these age groups for the last couple of years. If you had you would know that they have always ridden her hard; week in, week out. Look at regionals last year, I think she threw every game. Now she is on probably the weakest team she has played for to date. Where do you think the burden will fall?


It is only the third day of the New Year, don't snap me back to reality! :o Let me dream that this will be the year that coaches/parents do the right thing and don't ride a young lady into the ground for a 12u trophy! :idea:
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by lamike » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:40 am

No Ventura County representation in your 12U Rankings ?
Mistfits 96 (Oxnard)
So-Cal Diamonds 96 (Thousand Oaks/Moorpark)

Both teams played as 1st year 12's last season. Will be returning full squads and entering the Spring as 2nd YR 12's...Both squads had a strong fall season and have already beaten a few teams on your list...don't sleep ....
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by Clean_up » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:51 pm

Skarp wrote:
Spazsdad wrote:
#2 under rated = now is Bomb Squad 96, adding a top pitcher makes them a top 20 team. Let's hope they do the right thing and limited her innings, and don't expect her to pitch every "major" game.


You're kidding, right? I thought you stated you have followed these age groups for the last couple of years. If you had you would know that they have always ridden her hard; week in, week out. Look at regionals last year, I think she threw every game. Now she is on probably the weakest team she has played for to date. Where do you think the burden will fall?

You didn't even need to see the games to know which ones she pitched. It was always wins with scores of 1-0, 2-1, 2-0, etc., and then they would get bounced 13-2 or some such. When she ran out of gas, that team was toast (talking last year).


I wonder why she doesn't make a move to a top 10 team looking for a pitcher? Is it her family who want her always on the mound, risking injury? Just curious, that would be a shame if anything bad actually happens from overuse.
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by girlygirly16 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:05 pm

I have seen the FireCrackers 14U and 10U and they are very good! and I'm not suprised that the 12U is #1......
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by Luv_SC » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:16 am

True he needs her to keep the organization running. I am sure the only reason he is even bringing her back down is to try and build the 12u team up. I cant see her playing for another organization. Also the Firecrackers great organization but did hear the 10u team is going back to rec too much for some of the girls on the team.
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by DiamondDad » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:26 am

I wonder why she doesn't make a move to a top 10 team looking for a pitcher?


I think every team is one or two players away from being a top ten team. She is going to benefit BS'96 who did pretty good through the fall. She is joining a great core of returning players with some very supportive parents. With the addition of some new coaches, IMHO, I think BS'96 will give some of the "top ten" teams a run for their money. As far as joining some of the other "top ten teams", maybe her family did not want to deal with the drama or egos that go with those teams.
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by Sftbll4ever » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:27 am

DiamondDad wrote:
I wonder why she doesn't make a move to a top 10 team looking for a pitcher?


I think every team is one or two players away from being a top ten team. She is going to benefit BS'96 who did pretty good through the fall. She is joining a great core of returning players with some very supportive parents. With the addition of some new coaches, IMHO, I think BS'96 will give some of the "top ten" teams a run for their money. As far as joining some of the other "top ten teams", maybe her family did not want to deal with the drama or egos that go with those teams.


So, what is happening to the 14u team? They going to break up?
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by softballmafia » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:13 am

Sftbll4ever wrote:
DiamondDad wrote:
I wonder why she doesn't make a move to a top 10 team looking for a pitcher?


I think every team is one or two players away from being a top ten team. She is going to benefit BS'96 who did pretty good through the fall. She is joining a great core of returning players with some very supportive parents. With the addition of some new coaches, IMHO, I think BS'96 will give some of the "top ten" teams a run for their money. As far as joining some of the other "top ten teams", maybe her family did not want to deal with the drama or egos that go with those teams.


So, what is happening to the 14u team? They going to break up?


Why would they break up just by by loosing a pitcher...kind of absurd......Why would she go to another team....doesn't make sense...she is the Bomb Squad's founders daughter...has nothing to do with egos,drama,ect on other teams
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