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Teams disbanding, merging, or new teams in So Cal?

by A's mom » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:39 am

I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that one since it wasn't being discussed. I first noticed or heard of this coach at the begining of fall last year. First he was with Strike Force, then Rage or IE something or other, then Arsenal, then Minors Gold, now Arsenal again (the IE is a very small world of softball, makes it easy to notice these things). These coaches want to flame parents for team hopping.... I get it you must be such a great coach that we should follow you no matter how many times you flip flop?

Now, heres the question, I as a parent would not go to this tryout just because I would be looking for more stability for my DD, how many other people feel that this affects their interest or opinion on whether they might tryout for a team? I'm not talking about a coach who has been in the area a long time and built a good rep and just changed orgs. I'm talking about someone who has bounced around multiple times in a short period of time without a proven track record or reputation (good or bad).

Just curious if the same judgements follow these coaches in the parents minds as follow the kids in the coaches minds. If not, Why?

The grass gets greener the more manure you spread on it, while looking at the pretty green grass, make sure you check your shoes before you get home. That is not a comment on this team, I know nothing about this team except for the ads placed by this coach, that goes for any parent looking out mid season.
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by as the world turns » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:40 am

Under the Radar wrote:maybe the grass is greener

Usually when the grass is greener, it means there is more bullsh*t, I mean more fertilizer.
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by jcates67 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:56 am

People should know the facts before assuming anything. The coach's phone number and email address are included in every post. If you need to know his reasoning, call him.
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by A's mom » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:33 pm

That wasn't my question. I don't care about his facts or reasoning, or his decision. As stated, I want to know from others if this behavior by a coach is held in the same regards as the same behavior by a parent/player and if not, why. I could care less if he changes every 2 months, I am just being curious since we hear all the player leaving mid season crying on here all the time, what do people think about coaches doing it. I'm sure he has his reasons just like the guilty parents do, I'm sure just as them, it's a long list of what other people have pushed them to, I don't care about that because it's always filled with half truths and perceptions from both sides. I Just used him as an example since it was fresh and happening recently.

Now, are there any parents that want to give their opinion on this type of situation? I don't know this coach and have no opinions or feelings about him. This is not personal, if I wanted to know why he changed, I would call him. If I was thinking of trying out for his team, or made the team under MG and the switch was made, damn straight I would ask why but I am just curious how parents feel about this scenario.
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by Coach_Fitz » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:19 pm

A’s Mom, since your talking about me let me set the record straight for you. Yes I was with Strike Force for two practices not the smartest of choice I’ve made. I was never with rage or any other IE something team. We started with Arsenal and changed to Minors Gold unfortunately due to Economic issues our parents requested to go back to the Arsenal name. This has noting to do with the grass being greener or being unhappy with MG, it was all about cost per player.

Like most teams in this economy we are trying to make it as inexpensive as possible for our player to play and get seen nothing more.

But I’m Curious to know how it is viewed by parents as well!
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by Sftbll4ever » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:50 pm

Coach_Fitz wrote:A’s Mom, since your talking about me let me set the record straight for you. Yes I was with Strike Force for two practices not the smartest of choice I’ve made. I was never with rage or any other IE something team. We started with Arsenal and changed to Minors Gold unfortunately due to Economic issues our parents requested to go back to the Arsenal name. This has noting to do with the grass being greener or being unhappy with MG, it was all about cost per player.

Like most teams in this economy we are trying to make it as inexpensive as possible for our player to play and get seen nothing more.

But I’m Curious to know how it is viewed by parents as well!


I don't have a dog in this fight as my dd's have been with the same org for over 3 years now, BUT....before you came on here and explained, I would not be interested in trying out for a team where the coach/manager moves around a lot. Just makes it seem like they are not commited.

Think it is great that you came on though!!!
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by Under the Radar » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:04 pm

I have nothing to do with the above mentioned team/teams, just stating my opinion.

We too have been with the same team/Org for 3 years now, but if I were looking I have to admit I would be leary of a team that has a team jumper for a manager or head coach. We are always talking about consistancy with the girls & that would have to start by example.

I do have a question for the coach though, If you are the manager and head coach what difference would the $$$$ be by changing names?

Off point What the heck happened to the Crunch. I thought they were a good Org. Now no 10's or 12's are the others gone. Did Team Smith Rios leave Team Smith too?
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by A's mom » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:25 pm

I think it's great that you are looking out for your families best interest, especially in this economy. Like I said, nothing personal, just used you as an example since it came up. I applaude you for clarifying your situation because like I stated(and some after me) it would have dettered me from trying out for your team if we were trying out at this time. I do think that most parents are looking for stability. Though there are those who the grass is always greener and nobody will ever be able to please those parents(that was originally ment to be towards parents not coaches). Again pure curiousity and you just happened to come up. For the record, we have never met though the only personal experience things that I have heard from other people about you have all been positive. Good Luck with your team and keep looking out for your girls, sometimes in the push to be on top, people forget it is all about them!!
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by urkillinme » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:50 pm

Coach_Fitz wrote:A’s Mom, since your talking about me let me set the record straight for you. Yes I was with Strike Force for two practices not the smartest of choice I’ve made. I was never with rage or any other IE something team. We started with Arsenal and changed to Minors Gold unfortunately due to Economic issues our parents requested to go back to the Arsenal name. This has noting to do with the grass being greener or being unhappy with MG, it was all about cost per player.

Like most teams in this economy we are trying to make it as inexpensive as possible for our player to play and get seen nothing more.

But I’m Curious to know how it is viewed by parents as well!


Let's remember who we are talking about. A coach who was terminated from Hope University for some pretty shady stuff. Call him see if he tells you all about it. :o
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by urkillinme » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:59 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
urkillinme wrote:
Coach_Fitz wrote:A’s Mom, since your talking about me let me set the record straight for you. Yes I was with Strike Force for two practices not the smartest of choice I’ve made. I was never with rage or any other IE something team. We started with Arsenal and changed to Minors Gold unfortunately due to Economic issues our parents requested to go back to the Arsenal name. This has noting to do with the grass being greener or being unhappy with MG, it was all about cost per player.

Like most teams in this economy we are trying to make it as inexpensive as possible for our player to play and get seen nothing more.

But I’m Curious to know how it is viewed by parents as well!


Let's remember who we are talking about. A coach who was terminated from Hope University for some pretty shady stuff. Call him see if he tells you all about it. :o

Time for the first post police


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