Mad coaches yelling at players help?

[ontheblack]

My kid can handle the yelling, but it doesnt make her any better. She doesnt need it to thrive. The quality of the coaching is what is most important to her.

Im curious about one thing though. How many of the NCAA coaches with championships are screamers?

[Blind Squirrel]

My kid can handle the yelling, but it doesnt make her any better. She doesnt need it to thrive. The quality of the coaching is what is most important to her.

Im curious about one thing though. How many of the NCAA coaches with championships are screamers?

Like John Wooden?

[Sftbll4ever]

I too am totally against a coach that will yell at a child. My kid had the pleasure of dealing with this. He had wonderful things to say about her that I had no idea was going on.

Kept hearing from coaches that if they can't handle it now, how are they going to handle college. Uhm, 11 is not the time for that. 18 kids are a little more apt to handle that. Also, I have yet to see a college coach yell or belittle their players.

Like Artomatic, the only thing you are teaching your girls is that it is ok to be yelled at to be compliant when you are an adult.

I can guarantee you that there are other things college coached look at for mentally strong players and having a yelling coach is not one of them.

[ontheblack]

My kid can handle the yelling, but it doesnt make her any better. She doesnt need it to thrive. The quality of the coaching is what is most important to her.

Im curious about one thing though. How many of the NCAA coaches with championships are screamers?

Like John Wooden?

That goes without saying, but I was thinking specific to softball, like Sue Enquist.

[artomatic]

The only times I saw any of the coaches in the WCWS, super regionals, regionals get even remotely agitated was towards the umpires.
I didn't see one coach raise their voice towards any of their players.

[TheCloser]

I think yelling can be an effective way to develop urgency, discipline, and mental toughness if done properly. Look at at some of the greatest current and former coaches of our time such as Bill Bellichick, Bill Parcels, Pat Riley, etc. who are all yellers. The Phil Jackson's and Pete Carroll's of the world are the exceptions.

I think most of the aforementioned yellers used their yelling strategically to get the most out of their athletes.

Phil Jackson wouldn't yell at his players but he'd mind screw them all the time.

[Sftbll4ever]

I think yelling can be an effective way to develop urgency, discipline, and mental toughness if done properly. Look at at some of the greatest current and former coaches of our time such as Bill Bellichick, Bill Parcels, Pat Riley, etc. who are all yellers. The Phil Jackson's and Pete Carroll's of the world are the exceptions.

I think most of the aforementioned yellers used their yelling strategically to get the most out of their athletes.

Phil Jackson wouldn't yell at his players but he'd mind screw them all the time.

Although, all the examples you have given are of grown men coaching grown men. With the men they are yelling at getting paid millions of dollars.

None of that has anything to do with grown men yelling at little girls (or even little boys).

[Smiley]

My kid can handle the yelling, but it doesnt make her any better. She doesnt need it to thrive. The quality of the coaching is what is most important to her.

There is absolutely no correlation between "quality of coaching" and the bullying tactics employed by many "coaches." None at all. Show me a coach who knows the game inside and out, and he will be a better coach of he quietly earns respect rather than demands it, if he instructs rather than terrorizes, and if his goal is to improve his players rather than earn glory for himself. The coaches who use negative tools rather than positive tools do so only to mask their own failures. "Tough love" may be appropriate in things that are critical to a girl's future safety, but it is not a valid excuse for verbal or mental abuse on a softball field, nor is it going to lead to the best performances. Social scientists repeatedly have proven the greater effectiveness of positive reinforcement. Makes no difference if it is a laboratory rat, a dog, a 10U rec player, or an 18G college signee. Period. All the anecdotal stories ("Daisy just loves to be yelled at and she adores the coach who constantly tells her she is useless and will never succeed" or "My HS football coach used to beat us daily and I turned out okay") to the contrary prove nothing.

Any parent who thinks Daisy performs better when driven by fear is delusional.

[Fastpitch4Life]

My kid can handle the yelling, but it doesnt make her any better. She doesnt need it to thrive. The quality of the coaching is what is most important to her.

Im curious about one thing though. How many of the NCAA coaches with championships are screamers?

Like John Wooden?

Used to love to see John Wooden cussing and screaming, taking the towel out of his mouth, tripping the other team's players as they ran by his bench.

[TheCloser]

Smiley, you sound like a true hugger.