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by ontheblack » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:54 am

I see 100x worse on FormSpring.

Keep in mind also that these girls know that its mostly dads on HB and they dont really give a crap about the opinions expressed here aside from the rankings, which they also know is basically a parlor game.

I do agree that negative comments about players should be off limits, and for all but a few on here, it is an unwritten rule.
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by Battle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:04 am

Oh for heaven's sake! Can we get back to the pics of the cars. That was cool stuff. My favorite was/is the 57 Chevy.
In case I missed it, anyone got pics of that muscle car? 8-)
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by firehousepole » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:56 am

Regardless of the chest banging that goes on here, please be at least a little aware of the fact that there are some individuals who are bashing CHILDREN! That portion of this forum is ridiculous. If the "daddy's" on here want to schedule a BBQ with their little red or blue cups and rant on "how crappy their coaches are", "the jacked up calls made by the umps", etc... Rock on! From what I have read, seen, and experienced...most of these individuals were NOT athletes in their "hay-day" and now feel as though they've suddenly become Mike Candrea of softball because their DD has decided to play this sport that many of OUR DD's love!
Honestly, some of the banter that goes on is quite hilarious! It just shows not much has changed since the dark ages & the cavemen.
I won't call anyone out, since everyone here has probably committed this crime of opening our mouth and inserted the keyboard by posting something stupid. I was placed into a position to where I felt I needed to education my DD on "hey-bucket" and the multitude of comments. It didn't take her long to figure out which were parents that she knew. Gave her a new perspective on those individuals. Sad thing was the children felt the reprocussions of their parents actions. It's sad when DD states "how immature can they be"?

So...go on banging your chests and complaining about coaches, umpires, and parents. But please becareful when posting on someone elses child, one day it may come back around. Parents ruin sports for kids.
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by CheckWriter » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:38 pm

Parents ruin sports for kids.


They don't need HB for that. They just have a vehicle to facilitate their demise and more people know about it.

Over the long term it is fairly self limiting - sort of Darwinian acceleration by discussion board.

You'll notice the quantity and the extremity of the posts wanes as the girls get older. Very little of this goes on for 16 teams and almost none for 18s.

With one in college and one a senior in high school committed, it is pretty entertaining.

I think the best thing to do is not bother with travel ball until 12s or even 14s.
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.
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by Fastpitch4Life » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:23 pm

CheckWriter wrote:
Parents ruin sports for kids.


They don't need HB for that. They just have a vehicle to facilitate their demise and more people know about it.

Over the long term it is fairly self limiting - sort of Darwinian acceleration by discussion board.

You'll notice the quantity and the extremity of the posts wanes as the girls get older. Very little of this goes on for 16 teams and almost none for 18s.

With one in college and one a senior in high school committed, it is pretty entertaining.

I think the best thing to do is not bother with travel ball until 12s or even 14s.



Is this from personal experience or wisdom looking back?
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by hit4thecycle » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:56 pm

NumeroUno wrote:"It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.",
Benjamin Franklin

Wow great quote! 8-)
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by HIT & RUN » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:54 pm

firehousepole wrote:Regardless of the chest banging that goes on here, please be at least a little aware of the fact that there are some individuals who are bashing CHILDREN! That portion of this forum is ridiculous. If the "daddy's" on here want to schedule a BBQ with their little red or blue cups and rant on "how crappy their coaches are", "the jacked up calls made by the umps", etc... Rock on! From what I have read, seen, and experienced...most of these individuals were NOT athletes in their "hay-day" and now feel as though they've suddenly become Mike Candrea of softball because their DD has decided to play this sport that many of OUR DD's love!
Honestly, some of the banter that goes on is quite hilarious! It just shows not much has changed since the dark ages & the cavemen.
I won't call anyone out, since everyone here has probably committed this crime of opening our mouth and inserted the keyboard by posting something stupid. I was placed into a position to where I felt I needed to education my DD on "hey-bucket" and the multitude of comments. It didn't take her long to figure out which were parents that she knew. Gave her a new perspective on those individuals. Sad thing was the children felt the reprocussions of their parents actions. It's sad when DD states "how immature can they be"?

So...go on banging your chests and complaining about coaches, umpires, and parents. But please becareful when posting on someone elses child, one day it may come back around. Parents ruin sports for kids.

Hey Rook are you kidding me??? These are the same guys bashing the kids from the outfield during games! Every error, coaches mistake or freak occurance. Yup thats us???? We know it all!!
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by CheckWriter » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:06 pm

Fastpitch4Life wrote:
CheckWriter wrote:
Parents ruin sports for kids.


They don't need HB for that. They just have a vehicle to facilitate their demise and more people know about it.

Over the long term it is fairly self limiting - sort of Darwinian acceleration by discussion board.

You'll notice the quantity and the extremity of the posts wanes as the girls get older. Very little of this goes on for 16 teams and almost none for 18s.

With one in college and one a senior in high school committed, it is pretty entertaining.

I think the best thing to do is not bother with travel ball until 12s or even 14s.


Is this from personal experience or wisdom looking back?


A little of both I suppose. Older DD started in 12s. Where we lived there wasn't really an ASA presence so we started our own team that was mostly made up of the girls there were rec All Stars every year. Usual stuff. Pretty confident. First friendly of the fall was against the org that had just won 12U Nationals and we couldn't get through enough innings for the run rule to kick in. 20-something to nada in the 2nd inning. Oh, so this is travel ball - guess there is a difference. By the end of the spring we were playing .500 ball including some of the "good" teams.

Younger one started in 10s and went with an established organization. Experience was fine but, in retrospect, why? 2 extra years of driving all over God's creation for practice and games.

I guess my main point of teh post was the entertainment value of the intesity of the parental, not sure what, ego? "involvement"? It's just so over the top. That stuff all sorts itself out and after a while, you figure out where your DD fits in and get better at finding the right spot for her, hopefully and especially, college.

I guess I'm right in there though, certainly no record number of posts, but certainly can't keep my mouth (fingers, I guess) shut either. Been intentionally avoiding the 10s - 14s posts, but as soon as I peek, here I go!

Mostly follow the recruiting stuff and chime in when I feel I have something meaningful to offer from personal experience.

Who knows.
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by TheCloser » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:38 pm

I don't know where all the BS about calling out 12U girls came from. What's being called out is the coaching and management of teams which reflects on a team's performance, especially if you're talking up your team.

Some of it is also playful jabs at coaches who I personally know and like.

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by WAMBULANCE » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:15 pm

Close,

your jabbing and poking fun at teams and managers is the same as picking on the kids. If my husband is on here and is reading some of the posts and my daughter walks by and sees a post.....she see's here team and wow what do you think she is saying or thinking...

I know most of this stuff is all fun and games but there has to be a limit of what you say.

All I am saying is be careful what you post...GIRLS DO COME ON HERE !!!!

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