12U Bracketologist Ranking - Pre ASA Nationals Updated Poll

[onthejuice]

12u Mediocrities- Closer wanted smack well here it is. (all are based on observation, opinion and rumor)

HB Classic made it clear there is mediocrity across the board between teams #3-#30! I'm not convinced of Team #2 Firecrackers 98 either because I can't think of a major tournament they have won ( I believe they took 4th among the mediocrities at the Brenda Marsh). #3 Punishers can't stop anybody, (Losing to Top Team)LOL #4 Rawlings doesn't have enough pitching depth and is inconsistent. #4 USA Athletics- Can't win a big game. Tends to Daddy Ball. #6- OC Batbusters98- Poorly coached unless the top brass is running things. Keeps getting players because of name though. #7- So Cal Breakers- Who knows what that team is now! #8- Strike Force- Not enough depth! #9- Firecrackers 99- Can beat any team out there, but not enough pitching depth. #10- Double Play98- Laying low after miserable showing at Toys for Tots #11- San Diego Aztecs- Who knows? We'll see in a month or two. #12- Cal Warriors- Non-existent (blew up after break) We'll see if their players help some other mediocrities. #13- Mizuno Pride- Another mediocrity that does not pitch well enough to win a big tournament nor have enough impact players. #13- Nemesis-Elite- Elite remains to be seen, picked up some good players, but didn't start with very strong ones to begin with. #15-American Athletics-Miles- Not enough pitching, no impact players (all just good players). #16- So Cal Athletics- Underachieving with a lot of talent! #17- OC Batbusters 99- Belongs up with the top 10 mediocrities. -Doing extremely well for a 99. #18- Minors Gold (Sharkey)- A bit high don't you think. #19- Power Surge 99- ??? #19- Cal Cruisers (Relph) RIP #21- Corona Eliminators 99- Another 99 not on my radar #22 Corona Angels- They shut up all the nay sayers, but still won a lot of close games and gave up a lot of runs. Not convinced they could repeat what they accomplished! Certainly belong in Top Ten short of top 2! #23- Cal Cruisers (Sievers)- With Mel Sievers overseeing team, may move up, but not enough to be a threat to Top 10. Then again they're better than Top Team and looked what happen! #24- Corona Eliminators 98- Another threat to the Top 10 less #1 & #2, but won't win any tourneys. #25- VC Venon 98- Who are they??? #26- American Athletics (McGowan)- Another 99 that can knock off a top ten less #1 or #2 but will never make it to the top of a tournament (needs to wait til next year) #27- So Cal Madness- Overachieved at HB Tournament, probably won't happen again. #28- So Cal Jynx 99- ??? Have an ASA birth I guess (2 and Barbeque)#29- Sun Devils- ??? #30- So Cal Choppers ( Vannoy)- No pitching, not very good. #31- Pastime 98- ??? #32- Cal Lite- ??? #33- Team Smith- ??? Well there you have it! The glass is clearly half empty.

Not trying to read into anything, but i'm getting the feeling that you support my earlier post about "someone being on crack". lmoa

[4girlsmom]

12u Mediocrities- Closer wanted smack well here it is. (all are based on observation, opinion and rumor)

HB Classic made it clear there is mediocrity across the board between teams #3-#30! I'm not convinced of Team #2 Firecrackers 98 either because I can't think of a major tournament they have won ( I believe they took 4th among the mediocrities at the Brenda Marsh). #3 Punishers can't stop anybody, (Losing to Top Team)LOL #4 Rawlings doesn't have enough pitching depth and is inconsistent. #4 USA Athletics- Can't win a big game. Tends to Daddy Ball. #6- OC Batbusters98- Poorly coached unless the top brass is running things. Keeps getting players because of name though. #7- So Cal Breakers- Who knows what that team is now! #8- Strike Force- Not enough depth! #9- Firecrackers 99- Can beat any team out there, but not enough pitching depth. #10- Double Play98- Laying low after miserable showing at Toys for Tots #11- San Diego Aztecs- Who knows? We'll see in a month or two. #12- Cal Warriors- Non-existent (blew up after break) We'll see if their players help some other mediocrities. #13- Mizuno Pride- Another mediocrity that does not pitch well enough to win a big tournament nor have enough impact players. #13- Nemesis-Elite- Elite remains to be seen, picked up some good players, but didn't start with very strong ones to begin with. #15-American Athletics-Miles- Not enough pitching, no impact players (all just good players). #16- So Cal Athletics- Underachieving with a lot of talent! #17- OC Batbusters 99- Belongs up with the top 10 mediocrities. -Doing extremely well for a 99. #18- Minors Gold (Sharkey)- A bit high don't you think. #19- Power Surge 99- ??? #19- Cal Cruisers (Relph) RIP #21- Corona Eliminators 99- Another 99 not on my radar #22 Corona Angels- They shut up all the nay sayers, but still won a lot of close games and gave up a lot of runs. Not convinced they could repeat what they accomplished! Certainly belong in Top Ten short of top 2! #23- Cal Cruisers (Sievers)- With Mel Sievers overseeing team, may move up, but not enough to be a threat to Top 10. Then again they're better than Top Team and looked what happen! #24- Corona Eliminators 98- Another threat to the Top 10 less #1 & #2, but won't win any tourneys. #25- VC Venon 98- Who are they??? #26- American Athletics (McGowan)- Another 99 that can knock off a top ten less #1 or #2 but will never make it to the top of a tournament (needs to wait til next year) #27- So Cal Madness- Overachieved at HB Tournament, probably won't happen again. #28- So Cal Jynx 99- ??? Have an ASA birth I guess (2 and Barbeque)#29- Sun Devils- ??? #30- So Cal Choppers ( Vannoy)- No pitching, not very good. #31- Pastime 98- ??? #32- Cal Lite- ??? #33- Team Smith- ??? Well there you have it! The glass is clearly half empty.

I like you....

[TShark]

So basically, any team ranked #3 to #30 get beat one another, but they can't beat #1 or #2, Thats the way I am reading it.

[TheCloser]

Correction, FC 98 as So Cal Crunch once won a tourney over Victory 98 in the 2009 10U St. Paddy's Day ASA Tourney in Vegas.

[glasshalfempty]

Correction, FC 98 as So Cal Crunch once won a tourney over Victory 98 in the 2009 10U St. Paddy's Day ASA Tourney in Vegas.

I stand corrected! A tournament in Vegas 2 years ago with 10 teams. Good for them!

[glasshalfempty]

So basically, any team ranked #3 to #30 get beat one another, but they can't beat #1 or #2, Thats the way I am reading it.

Read it this way, any team ranked between 20-30 has no chance to beat #1 and #2! Team #2 is vulnerable to any team between #3- #20, but will beat them probably 98 times out of 100. As for #1, there are less than 5 teams that could possibly pull that off and it would be under special circumstances. #3 pitcher against a #1 pitcher, and the team leaves her in one batter too many. Anyway, that's how I see it! It's only an opinion.

[lucky]

Not trying to read into anything, but i'm getting the feeling that you support my earlier post about "someone being on crack". lmoa

I don't see that at all... "glasshalfempty" didn't call the rankings crazy... he just stated his opinion that the 12U teams are all flawed...

BTW - Bracky doesn't create this list all by himself... maybe you're butt hurt because you didn't get to vote?

[TShark]

Glass mentioned all teams but one. Is that team flawless?

[Clamato]

No doubt #1 is a good team and well coached. Just curious, what 12U tournaments have victory won

[glasshalfempty]

No doubt #1 is a good team and well coached. Just curious, what 12U tournaments have victory won

Not interested in defending Victory. However, they were still playing when the rain started falling at Toys (the only tourney they entered in Fall) and taking 5th at ASA Nationals as a first year 12u team is unheard of. Most of the team remains intact.