The Next Lawyer

[Play ball]

This whole thing really Pi$$es me off! I don't know if I'm more upset at the system, or the people that supported him in the past! Maybe it's a little of both. If all this is true, and the postings on eteamz are valid, I would like to point out one thing. To those that stood by him without reservations...THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "NOT GUILTY" and "HUNG JURY!"

Sorry for yelling

[d-fense]

I believe those parents who stood by him are just as pissed off as you, if not more. They stood by a friend who they believed in. They were obviously wrong. Now it's time to put the past behind them, and move on with a present problem and figure out a way to keep the organization together for the sake of the girls who want to play softball. TNL is not the coach - TNL is the girls. And, the girls want to play and deserve to play. They have worked hard to get to where they are. The coach has been removed from the organization. Steps are being taken to keep the girls playing in the midst of this nightmare.

[Alice]

Come on guys, is this for real?

[Blind Squirrel]

I believe those parents who stood by him are just as pissed off as you, if not more. They stood by a friend who they believed in. They were obviously wrong. Now it's time to put the past behind them, and move on with a present problem and figure out a way to keep the organization together for the sake of the girls who want to play softball. TNL is not the coach - TNL is the girls. And, the girls want to play and deserve to play. They have worked hard to get to where they are. The coach has been removed from the organization. Steps are being taken to keep the girls playing in the midst of this nightmare.

If TNL is the girls and the girls want to play softball, then why don't the girls just play for a team in a different organization in the area? Why continue to play for a tarnished organization and have to deal with the crap that comes with it? Seriously. What is the reason someone would want to continue their participation/association with this specific team/org? Where is TNL based?

John

[d-fense]

TNL is in So Cal. One reason those girls continue to play is that they love the organization and the other coaches, and what they have accomplished. Plus, they have been there all season, and with most teams qualifying and pursuing championship tournaments, the girls are stuck until after July, unless they implode and release all girls as pick up players elsewhere. I think as much normalcy for the girls in this situation is what is best. They are TNL, they are a team, they are strong and they are a family. The girls deserve to play and be supported.

[dirtsurfer]

TNL is in So Cal. One reason those girls continue to play is that they love the organization and the other coaches, and what they have accomplished. Plus, they have been there all season, and with most teams qualifying and pursuing championship tournaments, the girls are stuck until after July, unless they implode and release all girls as pick up players elsewhere. I think as much normalcy for the girls in this situation is what is best. They are TNL, they are a team, they are strong and they are a family. The girls deserve to play and be supported.

Are you kidding me???? As a parent, are you saying it is more important for your DD to play softball than to keep her away from a perv who may mess her up for the rest of her life?????

[d-fense]

Apparently you missed the above post where it states the coach in question has been totally removed from the organization??? If the coach was not removed and totally gone, I don't think ANY parent would let their daughter play there right now!! Give those parents some credit. I'm sure this is a very very tough and confusing situation.

[Play ball]

I believe those parents who stood by him are just as pissed off as you, if not more. They stood by a friend who they believed in. They were obviously wrong. Now it's time to put the past behind them, and move on with a present problem and figure out a way to keep the organization together for the sake of the girls who want to play softball. TNL is not the coach - TNL is the girls. And, the girls want to play and deserve to play. They have worked hard to get to where they are. The coach has been removed from the organization. Steps are being taken to keep the girls playing in the midst of this nightmare.

You are missing my point. To me "hung jury" means, shadow of doubt, clouded out come, elevated risk potential...I could go on. So are we now to trust that those same people are going to turn on the old parenting "COMMON SENSE-O-METER" and do the right thing? Removing the problem coach is great, but asking us to now trust those same people that were wrong in the first place.....uh, it's a bit of a stretch IMO!
Yes TNL is not the coach, however TNL IS the organization as a whole....it is not JUST the girls. To me, taking the right steps would include removing those that blindly stood behind him last time.

Again, JMO

On a side, obviously the coach screwed up again...but does anyone know just exactly what happened? On eteamz the first post says something about another victim coming forward.

[RACER X]

Apparently you missed the above post where it states the coach in question has been totally removed from the organization??? If the coach was not removed and totally gone, I don't think ANY parent would let their daughter play there right now!! Give those parents some credit. I'm sure this is a very very tough and confusing situation.

Fool me once ---- Shame on you!
Fool me twice ---- Shame on ME!

Do you think it might be time to find an organization with better checks and balances?

[MR DP]

Look, those who believed in him and stood behind him did it for their own reasons. They believed he was innocent of the crime he was accused of. They may of had inside information about the accuser and believed she was not honest. Maybe the coach smooth talked them. Whatever the reason, we should not put the blame on them for standing behind him at that time. Today is a different story, NO parent is standing behind him and applaud the TNL BOARD for firing him.

A coach is the PROBLEM! TNL is not the problem! Yes, it does give TNL a bad name. However, the current coaches are NOT like the fired coach. I believe, if they (current coaches) keep TNL around that they could remove the stigma the organization currently has. Yes, it will take time and a lot of effort.

Now that the coach is no longer associated with the organization it is time to move forward and make TNL a respectful organization.

On the outside looking in.

JMO