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NCAA Obstruction Question

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by GIMNEPIWO » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:59 am

In 23U, NSA rules set ; This past summer we had two occassions where the same Blue did not have obstruction on a play. One time F2 was set up in the base path without possession, another time it was F5 ... In our oppinions it was OBS & we asked about it to no avail ... However, on the F5 play, the Blue said 'she would have had possession if she had caught the ball' ( the throw bounced and she missed the hop ) ...
This Blue ( according to two of our players and himself ) is an NCAA UMP ... My question is whether NCAA has similar wording as NSA, ASA & Fed on obstruction, or did he have some basis for his ruling, albeit the wrong rule set for the weekend ?
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by topper » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:25 am

The NCAA rule doesn't require a fielder to have the ball in order to block a base/base path. As long as the fielder is about to receive the ball, there is no OBS. "About to receive" is defined as the ball being closer to the fielder than the runner is. I'm not sure what NSA's OBS rule is, but his explanation doesn't jibe with the NCAA rule.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:59 pm

In NSA you have to have possession of the ball ... so, not having the ball because she missed catching it could be OBS ... In both cases I would say the fielder was " about to receive ' the ball ... Your definition reenforces our feelings that he was getting his rule sets mixed up ... Thanks ...

* edit : as a side note ... @ 23u we have been playing by some NCAA rules even when the tourny may be NSA ... jewelry, metal cleats etc ... so, things are bound to get fuzzy here and there ...
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by MTR » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:43 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:* edit : as a side note ... @ 23u we have been playing by some NCAA rules even when the tourny may be NSA ... jewelry, metal cleats etc ... so, things are bound to get fuzzy here and there ...


Why wouldn't adult players be allowed to wear metal cleats, or for that matter, jewelry?
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by EzOut.EzOut » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:20 pm

Because everyone thinks that metal cleats are somehow inherently more dangerous either to the player wearing them or to opposing players. Are there really that many more injuries due to metal vs molded?
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by MTR » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:47 pm

EzOut.EzOut wrote:Because everyone thinks that metal cleats are somehow inherently more dangerous either to the player wearing them or to opposing players. Are there really that many more injuries due to metal vs molded?


Well, they are, but so is standing in front of a 98 mph softball, but players do that every 10 minutes.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:39 am

MTR wrote:
GIMNEPIWO wrote:* edit : as a side note ... @ 23u we have been playing by some NCAA rules even when the tourny may be NSA ... jewelry, metal cleats etc ... so, things are bound to get fuzzy here and there ...


Why wouldn't adult players be allowed to wear metal cleats, or for that matter, jewelry?


Not saying they shouldn't be allowed to ... Only saying that in moving up from 18U to 23U, some of the rules are modified ...
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