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by PDad » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:47 pm

dcoach52 wrote:And I get the rule for shorthanded, my question is who makes a team bat 10 then penalizes them due to injury. The coach did not want to bat 10.

Someone that wants to prevent teams (not yours) from shortening their line-up by reporting fictitious injuries.

First time I've heard a tournament force teams to bat their roster. Some give the option in pool play. Your team and others should give feedback on the rule so the tournament doesn't use it again.
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by dcoach52 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:52 am

PDad wrote:
dcoach52 wrote:And I get the rule for shorthanded, my question is who makes a team bat 10 then penalizes them due to injury. The coach did not want to bat 10.

Someone that wants to prevent teams (not yours) from shortening their line-up by reporting fictitious injuries.

First time I've heard a tournament force teams to bat their roster. Some give the option in pool play. Your team and others should give feedback on the rule so the tournament doesn't use it again.


I can understand in pool play, but this was the championship game. This is my first experience with a "modified" asa sanctioned tourny.
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by K'SDAD » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:03 am

DON'T play with this group again!!! :roll:
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by HugoTafurst » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:25 am

dcoach52 wrote:
broadband wrote:
dcoach52 wrote:
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...my question is who makes a team bat 10 then penalizes them due to injury. The coach did not want to bat 10.



Uh, let me take a short at this......

The people who sponsored the tournament that your team CHOSE to play in... :D
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by vcblue » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:14 am

dcoach52 wrote:
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dcoach52 wrote:The play that the player got injured was another debate, the short stop(only person with a play on the ball) missed the ball and it hit the runner behind her as it headed for the gap in left center. Umps called the runner out on contact. The coaches asked why she was out when the runner was BEHIND the short stop who missed an opportunity at the ball. They were told if she is off the base she's out unless the ball ricochets off of the defender's glove.


This one was either a 'opps' or 'duh' moment if it happens as you've typed it here.

ASA
Rule 8-7-K
When a runner is struck with a fair untouched batted ball while not in contact with a base and before it passes another infielder excluding the pitcher, or if it passes an infielder and another fielder has an opportunity to make an out.
EFFECT: The ball is dead and the runner is out. All other runners must return to the last base legally touched at the time of the interference.

So question then, was there another fielder behind the 1st one that could have made a out if the ball was not interfered with? If no, then see my 1st sentence. :D


no chance anyone behind short could have gotten it, left center was a huge gap and the ball was hit between short and second base. By rule she should not have been out, but the ump said that she was out because the short stop never touched the ball.

And I get the rule for shorthanded, my question is who makes a team bat 10 then penalizes them due to injury. The coach did not want to bat 10.


Asked (several times) and Answered (several times). Next time you play this type of tourny have the TD spell out what will happen due to the non-ASA rule at the coaches meeting.
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by dcoach52 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:54 am

Yeah silly me, I the parent should have asked the TD what his take are on obscure rules that might happen once a season. I was more venting about the poor direction that the tournament had, and was seeing if other states have this problem frequently. I assume that the "good" softball states don't have this issue. Most tournaments here don't even have a coaches meeting. Thank you to the people who understood my post.
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by MTR » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:38 pm

dcoach52 wrote:Yeah silly me, I the parent should have asked the TD what his take are on obscure rules that might happen once a season. I was more venting about the poor direction that the tournament had, and was seeing if other states have this problem frequently. I assume that the "good" softball states don't have this issue. Most tournaments here don't even have a coaches meeting. Thank you to the people who understood my post.


If you are only a silly parent, how do you know the teams were not given direction? Even if they were, you would be surprised at the selective hearing, discarding of printed instructions and predetermined beliefs folks carry into tournaments.
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