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by jksdad » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:58 pm

We were playing in a college exposure tournament. The Worth Showcase at Midwest sports complex in Indianapolis. It rained all weekend. We played one game for 1 hour the whole weekend. They were trying to get the games in, but they lost. This was around $500 or $550 to play. I would think we should get something back. They are saying no. I would be happy with a discount in a different tournament. The coach isn't getting anything back from the people in charge just a list of next years tournaments. I know tournaments don't like to give money back but only one game!! I am thinking we may not go back to Midwest for anything.
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by PDad » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:03 pm

Website (http://indianafastpitch.com/Worth_Showcase) has nothing definitive regarding refunds for weather.
- No refund if a team withdraws, but that wasn't the case here.
- Rain out policy: In the event of inclement weather, the tournament director has the right to alter the tournament in whatever ways necessary to reach conclusion. (options include shortened games, or rule changes to get in the proper number of games). The head coach is responsible for finding out scheduling changes. An inclement weather phone number will be provided.

Some events hold back 50% on a complete washout - enough to cover their costs and probably also their expected profit. On a partial rainout, they keep more to cover additional costs and refund the rest based on games cancelled.

I would be more leery of entering events by that TD than the facility - I think Midwest SC is used by multiple TD's.
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by jksdad » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:16 pm

Rule one don't put anything down in print. I never found anything about rain outs in the information that was sent out. I would have thought the teams would have gotten a discount on a future tournament. It is looking like they are going to make mad and hope we forget in a year and come back.
This is one time I wish we had a lawyer on the team to send a letter for us. Not worth spending money on to hire a lawyer.
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by hogtyed » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:54 pm

If you can't find an attorney to write a letter, send one of your own off to the better business bureau for the state you were in.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:46 am

PDad wrote:Website (http://indianafastpitch.com/Worth_Showcase) has nothing definitive regarding refunds for weather.
- No refund if a team withdraws, but that wasn't the case here.
- Rain out policy: In the event of inclement weather, the tournament director has the right to alter the tournament in whatever ways necessary to reach conclusion. (options include shortened games, or rule changes to get in the proper number of games). The head coach is responsible for finding out scheduling changes. An inclement weather phone number will be provided.

Some events hold back 50% on a complete washout - enough to cover their costs and probably also their expected profit. On a partial rainout, they keep more to cover additional costs and refund the rest based on games cancelled.

I would be more leery of entering events by that TD than the facility - I think Midwest SC is used by multiple TD's.


Well ... since they shortened the tournament from 5 games to one game, who was announced the winner ? :mrgreen:
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by Sam » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:56 pm

I would contact the TD and inform him that I would like 75% of my money returned. If that was not agreed to, then I would let that TD know that I will be posting his name and his organization's name on Heybucket along with the way my team was treated, encouraging all teams to bypass future tournaments run by this TD and the organization. I would proceed to electronically trash the TD and organization, encouraging all other teams that were ripped off at this "tournament" to share their horror stories and spread the word about this individual stealing money from non-profit youth organizations.

Then I would take a moment in retrospect and ask why I would allow MY team to sign up for a "showcase" tournament in Indiana in October only to piss and moan about the SURPRISE rainout of the majority of games. You lost $500 of your team's money because you were essentially stupid.
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by faster » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:30 pm

Sam wrote:I would contact the TD and inform him that I would like 75% of my money returned. If that was not agreed to, then I would let that TD know that I will be posting his name and his organization's name on Heybucket along with the way my team was treated, encouraging all teams to bypass future tournaments run by this TD and the organization. I would proceed to electronically trash the TD and organization, encouraging all other teams that were ripped off at this "tournament" to share their horror stories and spread the word about this individual stealing money from non-profit youth organizations.

Then I would take a moment in retrospect and ask why I would allow MY team to sign up for a "showcase" tournament in Indiana in October only to piss and moan about the SURPRISE rainout of the majority of games. You lost $500 of your team's money because you were essentially stupid.



You are an ass....what a waste of time to even post that
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by faster » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:27 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
faster wrote:
Sam wrote:I would contact the TD and inform him that I would like 75% of my money returned. If that was not agreed to, then I would let that TD know that I will be posting his name and his organization's name on Heybucket along with the way my team was treated, encouraging all teams to bypass future tournaments run by this TD and the organization. I would proceed to electronically trash the TD and organization, encouraging all other teams that were ripped off at this "tournament" to share their horror stories and spread the word about this individual stealing money from non-profit youth organizations.

Then I would take a moment in retrospect and ask why I would allow MY team to sign up for a "showcase" tournament in Indiana in October only to piss and moan about the SURPRISE rainout of the majority of games. You lost $500 of your team's money because you were essentially stupid.



You are an ass....what a waste of time to even post that

Actually he sounds pretty spot on


yeah if you're an ass and you cant think of anything constructive to say... why post if it's just to make somone with a legitimate question feel stupid.....it really says nothing in the way of good sportsmanship...........or does that not apply here amongst all these coaches.....?
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by BigPeaches » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:10 am

Well, I thought it was pretty funny.

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by Sam » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:52 pm

Actually my reply was ingenious, offering two seperate points of view. You may be too stupid to realize it, but both of my options were viable.

Sportsmanship has nothing to do with this. Analyzing when/where/why you spend your team's money is paramount prior to committing the funds to play. Playing in Phoenix, for instance, can be a great idea or a horrible one....depending on when the event is taking place. Park City, UT can be a great place to play TCS's World Series....in July or August.....but if they were holding a showcase in November, I might think twice about it.

Apparently you chose not to consider that type of information and wasted your team's money......but I'm the one who is an ass.....OK.
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