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DD Being Forced to Change her Number, might leave team!

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by CallingCadence14 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:36 am

We went from 03 to 14 I went from CallingCadence3 to CallingCadence14 like I told DD no matter what her # is or any other girl on the tm the object to being succesfull is being #1 on the State which is an attainable goal.You cant just want to be #1 you got to work at it.Who cares who's polebarn it is, make em name after you when you leave.End story we can wear Nascar T shirts for#'s,and bud light visors,with cut off shorts and sliders ,it doesn't matter .Who really cares what #you were wearing when you played in a game ,# on a Jersey is to help the book keeper and blue, anyone else ,they'll remember your name when they want to talk to you.They know who you are if you stand out.
The end result in travel is the score on the board and who takes home #1 on the final day in the final game,the rest of the #'s are stats.
If you leave once over something so trivial,or threaten to leave, and they find someone better the organization could just let you go.Let pole barn girl keep her # she's probably only there so your organization can have a place to practice.Don't tell DD that but you get the drift.Your an adult if you really think it's about a # you might wanna wake up polebarns Daddy or Mommy has already flexed some muscle and you were asked to relieve DD of her #..It's at your front door for a reason.Obviously DD thinks strongly of loosing the # or you wouldnt of posted on here.Before you rock the boat make sure DD has somewhere to go and be #1.If not she might be somewhere else as #2 and still be without her precious #.
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by dustyshoes » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:53 am

That would just be too cruel to burn down the pole barn and make the poles live outside in the middle of winter.

I'm glad my DD isn't on your team, it doesn't sound like it's going to be a fun season for anyone regardless of how many wins you get.
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by Bill_B » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:02 am

One of the things about this game is the superstition, mysticism, and magic. In my line of work and in normal life I have complete disdain for even the hint of such concepts but Baseball and Softball are heaped with tradition and superstition.

My youngest is a pitcher and has had her number since she was four. She's fourteen now. One thing I have always looked for when considering a team is a player on the team who already has the number six. If it's already in use, we won't even consider the team. I look at her number as one of the many things we need to keep constant. Minimize variables and consistency is more readily attained.

So. I just asked my youngest, a pitcher who has had number six for ten years, what she would do if a new player came to the team whose family offered a training facilty, and insisted she have the number six. Without a blink she said she would go to 66. What, I asked, if 66 is already in use? She replied that she would go with 16 or 61; something with six. She was not at all indignant or concerned.

Evidently, the concern that the number be constant over the years has been mine. I'm not sure this will help you resolve your issue but if you remove any concerns you have and encourage your DD to come to a resolution that she likes, the problem may be solved.

Respectfully,
Bill
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by Sparky Guy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:38 am

Pitchermom wrote:Part of the problem was the way this was handled. Coach comes up and says "I'm going to make you the same offer I made "OTHER PLAYER" . . ." And he goes on and offers her the pants and hoodie if she will change her number. Point here is that my daughter was NOT offered the same thing the other player was offered. The other player was offered a CHOICE and was allowed to decline. My daughter was given an ultimatum. She was told she had to change her number, but to make up for it they would buy her some pants and a hoodie. :evil: My DD points out that they wouldn't have offered her pants and a hoodie if they didn't already know it was wrong. She has always respected this coach, but I'm afraid now their relationship has been damaged. I can point out that she can be the bigger person and cooperate, but I'm not going to make excuses for the coach. What he did was disrespectful to her as a player, by humoring another player at her expense. This wasn't something I needed to point out. It was something she felt and experienced herself.




GET OFF THE ME FIRST THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The coach did THE right thing. He offered the option to the girl with THE MOST SENORITY in the program. The other girl balked. Tell your daughter daughter that crappy things happen and to just move on. Kat's example of Dale E. from NASCAR was a perfect example. He did not won the number the team did.

You've moaning and complaining for your daughter about this. The program is being more than fair by offering to replace the numbered items at their expense. If you(she) don't like it then leave the team and try and find one that will accommodate her wishes.

To your daughter:

I've been through the program with my own daughters and I coached without a daughter on the team. My youngest daughter has been through the number thing more than once. Get over yourself and show the rest of the girls on the team you care more about the team than yourself. In the end it'll show you can be a leader through actions instead of words.
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by watcher » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:19 am

Bill_B wrote:One of the things about this game is the superstition, mysticism, and magic. In my line of work and in normal life I have complete disdain for even the hint of such concepts but Baseball and Softball are heaped with tradition and superstition.

My youngest is a pitcher and has had her number since she was four. She's fourteen now. One thing I have always looked for when considering a team is a player on the team who already has the number six. If it's already in use, we won't even consider the team. I look at her number as one of the many things we need to keep constant. Minimize variables and consistency is more readily attained.

So. I just asked my youngest, a pitcher who has had number six for ten years, what she would do if a new player came to the team whose family offered a training facilty, and insisted she have the number six. Without a blink she said she would go to 66. What, I asked, if 66 is already in use? She replied that she would go with 16 or 61; something with six. She was not at all indignant or concerned.

Evidently, the concern that the number be constant over the years has been mine. I'm not sure this will help you resolve your issue but if you remove any concerns you have and encourage your DD to come to a resolution that she likes, the problem may be solved.

Respectfully,
Bill



Both DD's have had multiple numbers thru the years, Either from moving to another team or high school, So far it has not affected the play on the field.

Billy, Say Hi to pig-pen for me :D
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by isnt she fancy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:08 pm

HI,
I understand your feelings. My daughter is a pitcher and had to switch numbers this year as well. We put in lots of time too. However, a pitcher should not get more privileges than an outfielder for the sole reason she is a pitcher. I am sure the coaches based their decision on the family's commitment to the organization and not because they have money. I think that maybe if you didnt act upset and peeved by it that it would help your daughter accept the situation as well. It is a good opportunity to teach your daughter "otherness" and generosity in spirit. There will be occasions in life in which more than a number may be required to meet the needs of someone else. Best wishes for a peaceful resolution.
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by mozzy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:31 pm

These 3 are good:



:) Get over yourself and show the rest of the girls on the team you care more about the team than yourself. In the end it'll show you can be a leader through actions instead of words.


:) if you remove any concerns you have and encourage your DD to come to a resolution that she likes, the problem may be solved.

:) I am sure the coaches based their decision on the family's commitment to the organization and not because they have money. I think that maybe if you didnt act upset and peeved by it that it would help your daughter accept the situation as well. It is a good opportunity to teach your daughter "otherness" and generosity in spirit. There will be occasions in life in which more than a number may be required to meet the needs of someone else. Best wishes for a peaceful resolution.

This one is bad:


:evil: This little incident makes HER feel even less like a valued part of this team and clearly not valued in the organization, and SHE works waaay to hard to be made to feel like that. SHE has decided SHE will change HER number and pitch for this year with them because of funds invested, however, SHE will be actively shopping for a new team for next season as SHE pitches this summer. I bet it will be one of HER best seasons yet, since SHE will be showcasing what SHE can and can't do and will want to be remembered by opposing teams, knowing that SHE will be showing up at their tryouts come fall.

I think I'm going to ask that the new number and team logo be left off those pants and hoodie and just get HER name put on there. That way SHE can get more than one season's use out of them.

I truly mean no disrespect in pointing this out.
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by jofus » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:29 pm

What a bunch of city slickers 8-)

From wikipedia...

"Pole barns
A pole barn or a cattle barn in North America is a barn that is essentially a roof extended over a series of poles. They are generally rectangular and lack exterior walls. The roof is supported by the poles which make up the outside barrier of the barn.[6] The roof can be gabled or hooped. Pole barns are most often used for hay storage or livestock shelter. The advantages of pole barns include their low cost and their ability to store large quantities of hay in areas easily accessible by vehicles, machines and people.[7] This type of barn is very common in modern agriculture."

Normally around here (WV), they usually have exterior walls. Basically, it's a barn that, rather than having a frame more like a house, with evenly sized wall studs (those are the boards behind your walls for you REAL city slickers ;) , normally 2x6's ), is built by first erecting several poles (very similar to a pole for the power lines), and then building the frame on these poles. Therefore you don't need concrete footers or something similar. In the old days (and probably still in some areas), building a pole barn was a community effort, with a picnic atmosphere, and, with enough knowledgeable people, an entire barn could be finished in a day or two.

Here's a simple one without walls Image
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by daylightkate » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:40 pm

Phew Jofus, I'm really glad you clarified this because all day I was thinking it was a barn for strippers! :o
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by Bucket Mom » Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:15 pm

GET OVER IT ALREADY!! IT'S A FLIPPIN NUMBER!!
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