LL Softball on ESPN2

[pixsguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wA-JVpcpM

[Fasterpitch]

I can not agree with "Cali Sam" more , His last two posts on this topic are right on. ...( and we never agree).............Oh and my suggestion would be to add a spell check. If that would happen, we would all have our spelling right when we make a dumb ass statement.

[ManitouDan]

I hereby nominate Sam as Moderator in chief of Heybucket and Prez elect of the good ol US of A !!!!! keep on truckin sam ---heck I'm a relative newbie at this fastpitch thing, just berthed my 1st nationals LOL ---if I say/do something stupid feel free to let me have it . I've got thick skin. Really I could'nt agree more about the terrible choices for prez . and don't even get me started on LL. MD

[3'sDad]

1. Our LL Organization has paid umpires, not volunteers.
2. How does one get their DD interested in playing and actually play softball without LL, especially at the younger ages? You don't just start out with a travel softball superstar.
3. Here back East, LL is very well organized, player sign-ups easy and if really financially strapped, they can waive the modest registration fee to see that all the interested kids would be able to play. Not every family can afford to spend $1,000 + annually for 1 child to play softball.
4. At the 11/12 age, the girls that have a passion to play softball at the next level discover travel ball....for the rest, they have other interests they pursue and LL softball becomes a fond pleasant memory. LL teaches the girls the fundamentals of the game and to play as a TEAM, not 9 individuals, which is a terrific thing to see as a parent.

[Cannonball]

I don't see the problem with LL. Different strokes for different folks. Besides, I'm too busy watching the Olympic Softball Team to focus on LL games. You have to give NBC kudos on their tremendous coverage of Olympic Softball. Excuse me while I take my pill. People say that I'm having hallucinations.

[MTR]

1. Our LL Organization has paid umpires, not volunteers.

And that is entirely dependent upon the local association. Many still have an all-volunteer force.

2. How does one get their DD interested in playing and actually play softball without LL, especially at the younger ages? You don't just start out with a travel softball superstar.
3. Here back East, LL is very well organized, player sign-ups easy and if really financially strapped, they can waive the modest registration fee to see that all the interested kids would be able to play. Not every family can afford to spend $1,000 + annually for 1 child to play softball.

You apparently suffer from tunnel vision. LL is a fine organization that is affordable. However, even back here in the East, there are plenty of local softball organizations (ASA, NSA, PONY, etc.) that operate recreational leagues. Not everyone is expected to play on the travel ball squad. And, BTW, player registration in just about all the sanctioning bodies is relatively cheap even compared to LL.

4. At the 11/12 age, the girls that have a passion to play softball at the next level discover travel ball....for the rest, they have other interests they pursue and LL softball becomes a fond pleasant memory. LL teaches the girls the fundamentals of the game and to play as a TEAM, not 9 individuals, which is a terrific thing to see as a parent.

Again, LL is a fine organization. However, the fond memories can often depend on the parent and I've seen parents at LL games act just as bad as some of the parents of players in other organizations. NO, I'm not saying all parents act bad, but you all know of whom I speak. There are few organizations that don't have that one parent that occasionally needs to be sat down by the team and told to behave themselves. I'm just saying that LL is not immune to such actions.

One last note. There are some people who believe LL softball somewhat of a loophole of a sexist nature developed to keep the girls off the baseball teams. Hmmm?

[Blind Squirrel]

"He's (McCain) a liar and lousy pilot"

"...where some nimrod who doesn't know dog crap from apple butter ..."

I know this is trivial but the first statement looks to me like a manifestation of the second. You comment on people who are against America/Americans but you make that comment about a guy who fought in Vietnam and spent years being tortured in a prison camp on behalf of this country? He's a liar? Name one single politician who isn't and can be proven to be so with conclusive documentation/video/audio evidence. Sam, exactly what is the basis of your judgement of his ability as a fighter pilot? Were you one? If not, what is the basis for making such a statement? For the record, both parties and their adherents are equally guilty of the same thing. They both, typically, mindlessly knee-jerk react to every situation according to dogma. I believe that what is needed is a party/politician that actually looks at each situation and intelligently assesses what the best course of action would be. Tax cuts are not the solution to every economic problem. Federally funded programs are not the solution to every social ill. When Reagan was Governor, I believe he raised taxes significantly and I may be wrong but I think it had a positive affect. I guess he was a RINO.

John

John

[Sam]

"He's (McCain) a liar and lousy pilot"

"...where some nimrod who doesn't know dog crap from apple butter ..."

I know this is trivial but the first statement looks to me like a manifestation of the second. You comment on people who are against America/Americans but you make that comment about a guy who fought in Vietnam and spent years being tortured in a prison camp on behalf of this country? He's a liar? Name one single politician who isn't and can be proven to be so with conclusive documentation/video/audio evidence. Sam, exactly what is the basis of your judgement of his ability as a fighter pilot? Were you one? If not, what is the basis for making such a statement? For the record, both parties and their adherents are equally guilty of the same thing. They both, typically, mindlessly knee-jerk react to every situation according to dogma. I believe that what is needed is a party/politician that actually looks at each situation and intelligently assesses what the best course of action would be. Tax cuts are not the solution to every economic problem. Federally funded programs are not the solution to every social ill. When Reagan was Governor, I believe he raised taxes significantly and I may be wrong but I think it had a positive affect. I guess he was a RINO.

John

John

John,

You get to believe what you wish and I also get to believe what I wish and we get to vote accordingly. I don't have to have been a pilot to criticize McCain. My old man is a retired Marine and I worked for DOD for 19 years....I've been around a lot of military folk...a lot of pilots. There are plenty of whispers about McCain's years in the Hanoi Hilton and what he might have given the NV's. McCain was one of the Keating 5 and then pushed through campaign "finance reform" that limits our freedom of speech. He is a proponent of illegal aliens colonization of our country. He blocked the appointment of conservative judges. He was against Bush's tax cuts. He is a bitter angry old man and has no business running the country.

Obama is a little worse. Not much.

I would name Tom Tancredo, Jeff Flake, Tom Campbell, and Tom Coburn as politicians, off the top of my head, that I don't consider to be liars.

Personally, I don't believe any senator qualifies to run the USA. I think a governorship is a minimum requirement. Tax cuts and spending cuts are never a bad idea. When 60 cents of every dollar I make goes to the Government, I really don't want to give them any more. If you do, feel free to volunteer your own money.

[Skarp]

McCain is dead-wrong on nearly every important domestic issue...and not right enough on the rest. He's only better than Obama because he isn't an avowed statist. But he's certainly no conservative.

And his ad campaign is absurd. "John McCain will fight for you. He'll take on the big drug companies. Battle big oil. Fight global warming. Blah, blah blah. The true maverick." Ridiculous.

[norcaldad]

This thread has officially jumped the shark