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by Sftbll4ever » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:44 am

My dd attends a very academic heavy school up north (Ca.). They accepted her ACT score over her SAT.
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by jonriv » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:20 am

Once again Einstein...you're cluless...and mis-"understood". My DD's, brothers and sisters DDs and DSs, cousins, Aunts and Uncles, former players, friends (and foe) ALL live in the "center". SAT is the standard. Period....game, set match...


Perhaps your idea of "center" may be off center, but I prefer to utilize facts that can be backed up and verified. Something people learn a "good" school

Back in the ancient days when I was in school, this was strictly a geographical issue. If one lived east of the Mississippi River the SAT was the test, and if one lived west of the Mississippi the ACT was the test. That particular geographical difference no longer exists; but it has been replaced with a different geographical trend: colleges in the Mid-West now seem to prefer the ACT while schools on both coasts seem to prefer the SAT. This is not a hard and fast rule, however. If you know where you plan to attend college, just do some research or make a phone call to find out if they have a test preference.

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This was one of several article that cited the same statement I made. Perhaps your individual experience has been different than what the overall facts may suggest- everyone's experience is different

I also challenge the concept of me being a "newbie" Been in involved in competitive softball for a decade. I guess resorting to names and personal attacks is the refuge of the weak and ignorant.

I can also assure you that more $$$$ was spent on SAT prep than hitting lessons(she hits better than she takes tests)
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by jonriv » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:37 am

Watch out Joe- more "facts" but I guess Kaplan (who does SAT & ACT PREP) do not know what they are talking about, but since they are not related to you they probably do not know what they are talking about:

The SAT and ACT are significantly different tests, and in many ways, they measure different skills. So depending on your particular strengths and weaknesses, you may perform much better on one test than the other. As a result, many students embarking on the admissions process are now considering both the SAT and ACT--to figure out which test provides a better showcase for their abilities.

What's the Difference?
Admissions officers and educators often describe the difference between SAT and ACT in these terms: the ACT is a content-based test, whereas the SAT tests critical thinking and problem solving. This perception is one reason many educators (off the record) express a preference for the ACT--because they believe that the ACT is closer to testing the "core curriculum" taught in most school classrooms. In fact, this contrast isn't exactly watertight. Many questions on the ACT test critical thinking, and there is a predictable range of material that's tested on the SAT. But the SAT and ACT reward different attributes, so performing well on each test can boil down to what kind of test taker you are.

Here are some of the factors that make the SAT and ACT very different breeds:

* The ACT includes a science reasoning test; the SAT does not.
* The ACT math section includes trigonometry.
* The SAT tests vocabulary much more than the ACT.
* The SAT is not entirely multiple choice.
* The SAT has a guessing penalty; the ACT does not.
* The ACT tests English grammar; the SAT does not.

Remember, both the SAT and ACT are important parts of your application, but they're only one of several factors--from your courses and grades to recommendations and your personal statement--that colleges consider.
Test Snapshots

There are two major college entrance examinations administered in the United States today: the SAT and the ACT. Standardized tests like the SAT and ACT are designed to allow college admissions officers to judge all students by a common measurement. Scores on these tests can compensate for differences in high school curriculum, grade inflation, and quality of teaching. In addition, they serve as a reliable predictor of how you will perform academically in your freshman year of college.

SNAPSHOT: SAT
The SAT is the most widely taken college entrance examination. It is designed to test your skill level in math, vocabulary, and reading comprehension. The test is divided into seven sections: 3 math, 3 verbal, and 1 experimental section. The math and verbal sections each have their own distinct question types, including quantitative comparisons, sentence completions, grid-ins, and more. The experimental section, used by the test developer to try out new questions, is not scored and can be either math or verbal. You will not know which section is experimental.

The SAT is scored on scale of 200-800 for both the math and verbal sections. The College Board sets the average for all test takers at 500 for each. A perfect score on the SAT is 1600. However, in recent years, fewer than 20% of all test takers achieve a math score of 600 or better. Fewer than 10% score higher than 600 on the verbal section.

SNAPSHOT: ACT
The American College Testing Assessment (ACT) is designed to test your skill levels in English, math, reading, and science reasoning. On the test, you will have 2 hours and 55 minutes to complete a variety of multiple choice questions divided into four sections � one for each tested subject area. The English, reading, and science sections each include several reading passages with anywhere from 5 to 15 questions per passage. The math section includes 60 questions � each with 5 possible answer choices.

You will actually receive 12 separate scores on the ACT: 1 composite, 4 subject scores, and 7 subscores. However the composite � or scaled � score is the most important. It ranges from 1-36. Nearly half of all test takers fall in the 17-23 range.

SAT vs ACT
Until recently, the ACT was required by colleges in the Midwest, while the SAT was the test of choice for schools in the Northeast and on both coasts. Now, however, most schools accept both. This increased acceptance of both exams gives students a strategic advantage. The ACT is a content-based test, whereas the SAT tests critical thinking and problem solving skills. Depending on your particular strengths and weaknesses, you may perform significantly better on one test than the other. Regardless, you should check with each of your target schools before taking either exam.

For more information on the SAT or ACT, visit www.kaptest.com/college

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by BenAround » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:10 am

:lol: 4 pages arguing whether the SAT or ACT is mo betta'

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by jonriv » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:14 am

Joe has the issue with ACTs- my only argument was that they were an alternative for many prospective students and that most schools seem to accept both now.
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by Gone in 2.6 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:11 am

So..........I think the central message I'm getting from this thread is "whatever we do in my family is the ONLY right way to do it".

Got it. Thanks. :lol:
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by Daddylawman » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:14 am

Just a quick note for Joe - Harvard is one of those "piece of S#!t" schools that accepts the ACT

http://www.admissions.college.harvard.e ... index.html
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by Sftbll4ever » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:52 am

So, now that we have deteremined that we will waste all kinds of money, if anyone wants $50.00 off of Revolution Prep (Tutoring for SAT/ACT/Private Tutoring), let me know, I will give you the code. :D :lol: :D :lol:
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by 90066DAD » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:08 am

Gone in 2.6 wrote:So..........I think the central message I'm getting from this thread is "whatever we do in my family is the ONLY right way to do it".

Got it. Thanks. :lol:


That seems to be the message from Joe.

Others in the thread are pointing out that there are two alternative standardized tests, and practically all colleges are indifferent as to which one is submitted by an applicant.
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by anonlooker » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:12 am

90066DAD wrote:
Gone in 2.6 wrote:So..........I think the central message I'm getting from this thread is "whatever we do in my family is the ONLY right way to do it".

Got it. Thanks. :lol:


That seems to be the message from Joe.

Others in the thread are pointing out that there are two alternative standardized tests, and practically all colleges are indifferent as to which one is submitted by an applicant.


Joe must be ol' skewl, brah.
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