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by jonriv » Thu May 16, 2013 6:49 am

I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????

I think playing softball at the colleg level has many advantages:

1) Excellent training in "pressure" situations

2) working with a team

3) responsiblities

4) time-management

I also think there are some social aspects- immediate connection with upperclassemen, the cache that come with being a student athlete etc..

I also like the idea of another set of responsible eyes watching out for my daughter's welfare(coach)
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by ontheblack » Thu May 16, 2013 7:07 am

jonriv wrote:I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????

I think playing softball at the colleg level has many advantages:

1) Excellent training in "pressure" situations

2) working with a team

3) responsiblities

4) time-management

I also think there are some social aspects- immediate connection with upperclassemen, the cache that come with being a student athlete etc..

I also like the idea of another set of responsible eyes watching out for my daughter's welfare(coach)


So its a waste that a kid who has been playing softball since since she was 6 wants to forgo the full time commitment of it in college so she can experience other social aspects of college life?

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????


Simple. Now its back to being "just a game" played with friends. Sounds healthy to me.
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by Dugout Dad » Thu May 16, 2013 7:20 am

jonriv wrote: I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????
College players are a different breed, it is not for everyone. "Club" players are playing for the fun of it and can have a beer after they are done :D

jonriv wrote: I think playing softball at the colleg level has many advantages:

1) Excellent training in "pressure" situations

2) working with a team

3) responsiblities

4) time-management

I also think there are some social aspects- immediate connection with upperclassemen, the cache that come with being a student athlete etc..

I also like the idea of another set of responsible eyes watching out for my daughter's welfare(coach)

All good points, it also looks good on a resume in the job market, providing the athlete graduates.
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by jonriv » Thu May 16, 2013 7:26 am

ontheblack wrote:
jonriv wrote:I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????

I think playing softball at the colleg level has many advantages:

1) Excellent training in "pressure" situations

2) working with a team

3) responsiblities

4) time-management

I also think there are some social aspects- immediate connection with upperclassemen, the cache that come with being a student athlete etc..

I also like the idea of another set of responsible eyes watching out for my daughter's welfare(coach)


So its a waste that a kid who has been playing softball since since she was 6 wants to forgo the full time commitment of it in college so she can experience other social aspects of college life?

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????


Simple. Now its back to being "just a game" played with friends. Sounds healthy to me.



Based on the knowledge of the players mentioned that the "other social aspects" equalling more time to party- yes I do consider it a waste. I think many took the path of least resistance and IMO it will hurt them later in life.
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by PDad » Thu May 16, 2013 4:59 pm

jonriv wrote:I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????

Maybe "good" isn't good enough at UConn. There are only 4 CT girls on the UConn roster and only 2 of them are regulars. Anyway, thank them for us - we know someone that is committed there.
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by jonriv » Fri May 17, 2013 3:48 am

PDad wrote:
jonriv wrote:I am always surprised by how many good players that do not go on to play in college- always struck me as kind of a waste

One of the big surprises was when my daughter told me some of TB teammates were playing "club" softball at UCONN- the team there was literally an all-star team of players from her HS league- I don't get it????

Maybe "good" isn't good enough at UConn. There are only 4 CT girls on the UConn roster and only 2 of them are regulars. Anyway, thank them for us - we know someone that is committed there.


2-3 of the girls metioned could have played at UCONN- all of the others could have played at some other level.

Coach at UCONN has ben criticized for ignoring players in her own backyard(while still have a mediocre to poor performing team) She has been ther a long time(not sure why) There have been many very good players that have gone elsewhere-many who never even received a look. By comparison- UMASS (UCONNs neighbor to the north) recruits a lot locally and has been relatively successful.

There has been a move at many schools recently to remove long-term mediocre coaches(University of delaware, Yale to name a couple) perhaps that trend will continue
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by ontheblack » Fri May 17, 2013 7:34 am

Based on the knowledge of the players mentioned that the "other social aspects" equalling more time to party- yes I do consider it a waste. I think many took the path of least resistance and IMO it will hurt them later in life.


Seriously?

Deciding to not being a full time student plus full time athlete equates to partying? Does that mean that those students who are not athletes will be hurt later in life? Somewhat arrogant and judgmental perspective, dont you think?
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by jonriv » Fri May 17, 2013 7:37 am

ontheblack wrote:
Based on the knowledge of the players mentioned that the "other social aspects" equalling more time to party- yes I do consider it a waste. I think many took the path of least resistance and IMO it will hurt them later in life.


Seriously?

Deciding to not being a full time student plus full time athlete equates to partying? Does that mean that those students who are not athletes will be hurt later in life? Somewhat arrogant and judgmental perspective, dont you think?



No, because these girls told my daugther "we don't want to play softball because it will cut into our partying time" What I think hurts anyone later in lif and all through life is taking the path of least resistence
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by as the world turns » Fri May 17, 2013 8:19 am

jonriv wrote:
ontheblack wrote:
Based on the knowledge of the players mentioned that the "other social aspects" equalling more time to party- yes I do consider it a waste. I think many took the path of least resistance and IMO it will hurt them later in life.


Seriously?

Deciding to not being a full time student plus full time athlete equates to partying? Does that mean that those students who are not athletes will be hurt later in life? Somewhat arrogant and judgmental perspective, dont you think?



No, because these girls told my daugther "we don't want to play softball because it will cut into our partying time" What I think hurts anyone later in lif and all through life is taking the path of least resistence

Well, how dare these girls be honest with themselves, the world according to Sherriff Jonriv
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by jonriv » Fri May 17, 2013 8:26 am

as the world turns wrote:
jonriv wrote:
ontheblack wrote:
Based on the knowledge of the players mentioned that the "other social aspects" equalling more time to party- yes I do consider it a waste. I think many took the path of least resistance and IMO it will hurt them later in life.


Seriously?

Deciding to not being a full time student plus full time athlete equates to partying? Does that mean that those students who are not athletes will be hurt later in life? Somewhat arrogant and judgmental perspective, dont you think?



No, because these girls told my daugther "we don't want to play softball because it will cut into our partying time" What I think hurts anyone later in lif and all through life is taking the path of least resistence

Well, how dare these girls be honest with themselves, the world according to Sherriff Jonriv



So it is great the are honet.

So you feel taking the easy way is the way to go? Perhaps everyone should take the "I'd rather party" route? Sorry you feel that way AWT, seems different than some of your past posts?
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