BEWARE Teams Bringing players "down" for Nationals

[jonriv]

Not only checkenshit....illegal per PGF rules.

It would have been illegal but the Mizuno Pride did not play PGF this past summer. They went solely ASA. If they had played in a PGF qualifier, those players would have been locked in to the 18 Roster.

How did Mizuno Pride 16u qualify for PGF?

Did they have the players from the 18u team playing in the 16u qualifier, or did they decide to add them prior to Nationals, thus displacing the 16u players who actually earned the berth.

That makes it even worse!

[90066DAD]

The 18G players that were "brought down" by Mizuno Pride to play with their 16u team in PGF did not play in the 16u PGF qualifier.

[jonriv]

There must have been some real happy parents there!

[southbaysoftball]

It was a very uncomfortable week with unhappy parents and players. I am wondering what type of turn out they will have this weekend during their try outs.

[anonlooker]

Not only did they bring players down, they let players down.

[RogerG]

Rumor has it that Cal Lite was one of the teams that brought players down.It really sucks for the teams who are trying to get a top 6 spot.But dont blame the coach,parents need to step up and stop that nonsense.But this was probally expected from this organization.We went to there tryout last year.It was very unorganized and chaotic.They also tried to pull a fast one and bring girls from another organization without saying anything,but that got slapped down.Good luck to them this season,because I feel the wrath of the softball GODS coming down on them.Give the game back to the girls who work hard,not to the coaches who bring the game down...........

[heyseed]

ASA or PGF shouldn't matter regarding playing down. "Players may be added from any team in a like or younger age group if the player to be added was not on the roster of a team that qualified for nationals in any age group". So, since PGF can't check with ASA to verify the girls, they get by with it. How do you solve this issue?

[anonlooker]

Why not simply end the practice of pick-up players for Nationals?

I don't know the history of the rule, but I suspect it was linked to the "college player" pick-ups that ASA allowed, and since PGF doesn't allow college players, there is no reason for pick-up players at all.

Set a date that all rosters must be submitted to PGF, say the date of the first qualifier, and that is your team should you qualify. You got to dance with who brung you, swing with who swung you

If you can't compete with the team you take to the qualifier, then maybe you didn't do a good enough job building and developing your team in the first place.

But what about injuries? Well, don't you figure the potential for injury when you build the team in the first place? And then have most of the year to sort it out along the way?

Allowing every team to bring in 3 or 4 ringers because there is a possibility one or two teams may be impacted by an injury sounds like an Obama entitlement program to me. Misguided and unnecessary. And who is going to pay? Those who did the work all year long.

Too bad we can't get the kids from Mizuno Pride who were shafted to come on here and give us their opinion.

[CharlieHough]

I was clueless on the Mizuno Pride deal.....I was more talking about the SD Renegades and Cal Lite.

[jonriv]

The only time "pick-up" players should be allowed is when "regulars" are injured or cannot make the trip- probably he reason and intent of the rule in the firs place.