Group CATCHING Lessons - Waste of time - YES?

[Sam]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

[as the world turns]

Agreed. I got 15 words into his/her last post and just stopped. Jerk is just saying the same thing over and over and it all translates the same...

Shades of Bernie Sanders...

PDad - Your obvious another delusional parent who doesn't have the intestinal fortitude (aka, GUTS), nor the intelligence or backbone to make competent rational decisions, but instead flows with the masses, in hopes that some talent will shake off them and land on your DD.

Sounds like a good plan there, Buckoo. You got it all covered their, Chief!

Keep cutting those checks! I'm certain it will pay off... or not, but who cares? Surely your DD's skill improvement isn't more important than Jenn Scam getting another purse or yoga pants, or having shirts made that promote this nonsense.

Yeah PDad is not intelligent at all...right again, Jerk!

Hey! So you're okay with SBJ calling me delusional, gutless, spineless?!

I was amused SBJ thought my post was about him/her and my DD is a catcher...

Wait, are you calling me Bernie Sanders?? You delusional, gutless, spineless, UNINTELLIGENT Bastage!

Hey FP05, make me a Bernie Bánh mi sandwich.......
http://theweek.com/speedreads/583379/bernie-bnh-mi-msnbc-compares-presidential-candidates-sandwiches

2 Samwiches coming right up, Boff!

Since a "Sanders" sandwich will use week old expired bread, a halal approved meat product, bug infested lettuce (no pesticides) and community shared, no expiration date Mayo - and cost $55 - I'll pass.

[softballjerk]

Agreed. I got 15 words into his/her last post and just stopped. Jerk is just saying the same thing over and over and it all translates the same...

Shades of Bernie Sanders...

PDad - Your obvious another delusional parent who doesn't have the intestinal fortitude (aka, GUTS), nor the intelligence or backbone to make competent rational decisions, but instead flows with the masses, in hopes that some talent will shake off them and land on your DD.

Sounds like a good plan there, Buckoo. You got it all covered their, Chief!

Keep cutting those checks! I'm certain it will pay off... or not, but who cares? Surely your DD's skill improvement isn't more important than Jenn Scam getting another purse or yoga pants, or having shirts made that promote this nonsense.

I wrote plenty of good checks to Jen and guess what, my DD got a scholarship to a D1 school and she now works with Jen training other catchers that work hard day in and day out. You need to go climb back into the hole you climbed out of.......

Ya, and she would have never got to a D1 without Jenn, right? Has nothing to do with the travel coach and what he has done, it was 100% group lessons! Pleeze!

I'm glad you are now contributing to the scam so you can recoup some of the money you threw away, earlier in her career..

It's like the circle of life; You start as the scamee, then you become the scamer and scam others yourself! Sound Perfect...

[softballjerk]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

SAM - You get it.
These loyalist's attempt to defend these types of instruction by insults and not by actual content. This is exactly the types that refuse to look at what is actually being taught and how a group lesson in lets say "hot foot" is going to make their daughter better at throwing a runner out, sequencing the kinetic chain in order to have o most efficient throw as possible, what umpires have SAID over in over in interviews on what actually sells a marginal call to them (here is a clue, is not the leaning crap that goes on in these lessons).
Simple research will enlighten them, but they don't want to "Buck the System", because so many others are following suit - and they must do the same.

To this I wonder, how in the heck did Lexi Elkins, become the Diamond Sports catcher of the Year, when she never attended these group Jenn lessons? As a matter of fact, how did the NPF Chicago Bandits Catcher, Taylor Edwards, gain so much success, when she too, never attended Jenn's group lessons growing up, and How about Cat Ostermans favorite catcher; Megan Willis survive for so long, when she too, never attended Jenn's group catching lessons? and the list goes on and on and on...

These are unnecessary and do more harm than good. The mere inference that by attending these groups lessons and staying in sync with the other line dancers, that somehow a kid is going to reach their personal best, is misleading, dishonest and greedy.

[as the world turns]

SAM - You get it.

Words never said on the Bucket, EVER

Jerk - Now, go make yourself a SAMwich and swallow it whole

[AlwaysImprove]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

1) Your interactions with Kubota are a little dated. People change, as you have noted about yourself. They learn from past behavior. In coaching in particular when you are first doing it, you tend to be a bit more over the top and pushy about things.
2) There are numerous people that have had positive results from working with Kubota. They come here requrlarly, you meet them at the park, on the bigger D1 teams.
3) You have equally railed on Rico/Bruder in the past, yet both of those coaches have very extensive in raising girls recruiting stock. Just because they charge, and not every single person gets a scholarship does not mean it is all bad.
4) Real stretch from some of your negative experiences with Bruder/Kubota to assume they apply to Jenn, Jumping in the boat with loosely connected to reality softballjerk to help him grind his ax seems an odd approach.

I have seen way more free coaches teaching kids harmful/dangerous/incorrect mechanics than these paid guys.

[Sam]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

1) Your interactions with Kubota are a little dated. People change, as you have noted about yourself. They learn from past behavior. In coaching in particular when you are first doing it, you tend to be a bit more over the top and pushy about things.
2) There are numerous people that have had positive results from working with Kubota. They come here requrlarly, you meet them at the park, on the bigger D1 teams.
3) You have equally railed on Rico/Bruder in the past, yet both of those coaches have very extensive in raising girls recruiting stock. Just because they charge, and not every single person gets a scholarship does not mean it is all bad.
4) Real stretch from some of your negative experiences with Bruder/Kubota to assume they apply to Jenn, Jumping in the boat with loosely connected to reality softballjerk to help him grind his ax seems an odd approach.

I have seen way more free coaches teaching kids harmful/dangerous/incorrect mechanics than these paid guys.

Kubota has had success with the kids he likes. As I said, he teaches solid fielding/throwing techniques.
My comments regarding Rico/Bruder were related to charging at a private lesson rate while "instructing" two students at a time. I never had a problem with Phil, personally....I actually like him. My point was to make it clear that anybody who gets paid to do something in life is subject to scrutiny/criticism. Being young and pretty doesn't shield one from professional analysis.

It never worked for me....

[as the world turns]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

1) Your interactions with Kubota are a little dated. People change, as you have noted about yourself. They learn from past behavior. In coaching in particular when you are first doing it, you tend to be a bit more over the top and pushy about things.
2) There are numerous people that have had positive results from working with Kubota. They come here requrlarly, you meet them at the park, on the bigger D1 teams.
3) You have equally railed on Rico/Bruder in the past, yet both of those coaches have very extensive in raising girls recruiting stock. Just because they charge, and not every single person gets a scholarship does not mean it is all bad.
4) Real stretch from some of your negative experiences with Bruder/Kubota to assume they apply to Jenn, Jumping in the boat with loosely connected to reality softballjerk to help him grind his ax seems an odd approach.

I have seen way more free coaches teaching kids harmful/dangerous/incorrect mechanics than these paid guys.

Kubota has had success with the kids he likes. As I said, he teaches solid fielding/throwing techniques.
My comments regarding Rico/Bruder were related to charging at a private lesson rate while "instructing" two students at a time. I never had a problem with Phil, personally....I actually like him. My point was to make it clear that anybody who gets paid to do something in life is subject to scrutiny/criticism. Being young and pretty doesn't shield one from professional analysis.

It never worked for me....

And did your DD's play in college?

[Sam]

It's been a while since we sent someone to the corn field. SBJerk is paving his way

I have been real busy and haven't had time to go through all this but I will say, I have seen many of Jen's lessons over the years in fact I have seen many catching lessons over the last 30 years. Jens lessons are awesome and second to none, high energy all positive and she does an amazing job. Sorry Jen for this yahoo who comes on here hiding behind his computer screen acting like he's someone.

Keep up the great work Jen u are amazing and great for the sport

Couple of things....

Whether this is a young lady or a crotchety old man (Bruder), is irrelevant. Instructors are subject to public comment, as any business is....look at the reviews of products on websites or Yelp or etc. If she's gonna take the money, she has to take the heat.

Secondly, I was the one who mentioned Kubata in a post. His fielding/throwing techniques are fine. He is an A$$hole. He hires A$$holes to work with him. He approves of the mentally abusive techniques of people working for him. If you like that stuff....fine. I personally don't.

In the end, you get what you pay for....or less.

1) Your interactions with Kubota are a little dated. People change, as you have noted about yourself. They learn from past behavior. In coaching in particular when you are first doing it, you tend to be a bit more over the top and pushy about things.
2) There are numerous people that have had positive results from working with Kubota. They come here requrlarly, you meet them at the park, on the bigger D1 teams.
3) You have equally railed on Rico/Bruder in the past, yet both of those coaches have very extensive in raising girls recruiting stock. Just because they charge, and not every single person gets a scholarship does not mean it is all bad.
4) Real stretch from some of your negative experiences with Bruder/Kubota to assume they apply to Jenn, Jumping in the boat with loosely connected to reality softballjerk to help him grind his ax seems an odd approach.

I have seen way more free coaches teaching kids harmful/dangerous/incorrect mechanics than these paid guys.

Kubota has had success with the kids he likes. As I said, he teaches solid fielding/throwing techniques.
My comments regarding Rico/Bruder were related to charging at a private lesson rate while "instructing" two students at a time. I never had a problem with Phil, personally....I actually like him. My point was to make it clear that anybody who gets paid to do something in life is subject to scrutiny/criticism. Being young and pretty doesn't shield one from professional analysis.

It never worked for me....

And did your DD's play in college?

My most physically talented DD found boys at 15 and quit softball. I blew out my youngest DD's shoulder before she got a chance to be recruited. Why do you ask?

[Pale Rider]

Jerk is.......

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