It was only a matter of time

[exD1dad]

Hey Softball4ever Jtat32 is right, I've read it in the LA times as the West Coast has been a leader in LGBT issues, rights etc & when a Transsexual gets murdered or beat up, that, along with jtat's statistics are in the news. think about it for a sec, the whole idea of a woman trapped in a mans body can be extremely traumatizing for an adolescent. But like I said earlier it's .3% of the population & the govt should be trying to help our veterans (real heroes IMHO), our homeless, our unemployed, not overly catering to fringe groups so they can boost their approval ratings for re-election

[Skarp]

Hey Softball4ever Jtat32 is right, I've read it in the LA times as the West Coast has been a leader in LGBT issues, rights etc & when a Transsexual gets murdered or beat up, that, along with jtat's statistics are in the news. think about it for a sec, the whole idea of a woman trapped in a mans body can be extremely traumatizing for an adolescent.

Lots of things are traumatizing for adolescents. Having an IQ of 70 in an academic setting probably isn't a lot of fun. Maybe we should require school gifted programs to admit everyone who wishes they were smart.

Girls are allowed to play boys sports, if they are good enough to make a team. The reverse isn't true (for obvious reasons). Many girls would play boys sports if they could make the team...and some do. This kid IS a boy, and has a boy's physiology, so if he wants to play sports--if he wants to be "included"--there is a perfectly good outlet available to him for that. In short, he is being denied nothing whatsoever, and the suggestion that rules applicable to everyone else should be scrapped or bent in order to accommodate his preference to play on the girls team (where he has an unfair physical advantage) is absurd.

[Sam]

There is no such thing as a woman trapped inside a man's body. There are defects in everything that exists on earth. There are normal humans, plants, animals, rocks, elements, etc and there are some that have defects....many of them severe. People who commit suicide are defective. I'm not saying that LGBT are defective, but I consider Pat to be defective.

[exD1dad]

Skarp I don't think the Tranny should play either, I think its an attention getting ploy for publicity & have said so in earlier posts. I was just repeating what I know (from a reputable leftist source) & disputing Sftball4ever. I have found you to have been correct every single time (especially when you sharply criticized my behavior)

Sam that's how these people have always described their "condition". From tennis player Renee Richards to LA Times Sports writer Mike Penner who committed suicide 2 years after he did the whole sex change thing & became a woman. I believe Pat to be a self serving media whore hiding behind his "choice" for personal attention attempting to get an undeserved 15 minutes of fame in todays TMZ society. Guess what, it's working.

Like I said before pathetic

[MoeFoes]

I have a few questions.....
Will the hormone therapy or any of these procedures make them ineligible for sports? (increase testosterone/estrogen levels. Use of banned substances)
Since there is a need for policies, procedures and laws at the state level why not just give them their own competitions?

[as the world turns]

What happens when he also fails at playing softball, what accommodations will he want then?

[PDad]

Their approuch, as well as others, seems to make more sense and more acceptable-don't you think?

Do you think the California law was just poorly crafted? - too broad etc....

The issue is too complex to broadly grant a right in such a simplistic manner. Here is the text that was added by AB 1266.

(f) A pupil shall be permitted to participate in sex-segregated school programs and activities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records.

Interestingly, they didn't touch a gender-based exception in the same section for Sexual Health and HIV/AIDS Prevention Education. It's possible they left that alone because of different anatomical topics, but those classes are generally segregated so the students are more at ease.

(b) A school district may not prohibit a pupil from enrolling in any class or course on the basis of the sex of the pupil, except a class subject to Chapter 5.6 (commencing with Section 51930) of Part 28 of Division 4 of Title 2.

There are a few categories of transgenders from social (dress/appearance) to fully transformed and they should be handled differently. The law should have done 3 things:
1. Establish a means to validate the transgender and categorize them.
2. Establish how schools/districts should handle facilities for each category and provide funding for any mandated changes.
3. Make CIF responsible for handling the athletics portion while maintaining the integrity of each gender sport. CIF is much closer to the issues and they could tailor it by sport.

[as the world turns]

It is too bad that the local paper is focused on Pat instead of doing pre-season coverage of softball. Pathetically, it is the real softball girls that are missing out.

Pat even got his own photo spread. Whatever.
http://photos.sgvtribune.com/2014/02/18/photos-transgender-student-pat-cordova-goff-first-day-softball-practice-at-azusa-high/#3

[fasterpitch92701]

At the world turns... this is his quest; 15 minutes of self indulgent fame. He is not comfortable on the men's team but seems to have no problem "performing" for the cameras. And what if he isn't good enough for the girls team? He will play as the lawyers will otherwise line up. And, for the girl who didn't make the team as he took her spot... what about her? As long as he gets exposure he's happy.

It's a poorly written regulation that was not well thought out. Most politically correct fumbles like this are filled with unintended consequences. Virginia's take seems reasonable to me. Just remember, no one is allowed to be disappointed, uncomfortable, annoyed, bothered by anything in our politically correct society as we just dumb down to the lowest possible denominator.

Pathetic.

[fastpitchdad05]

It is too bad that the local paper is focused on Pat instead of doing pre-season coverage of softball. Pathetically, it is the real softball girls that are missing out.

Pat even got his own photo spread. Whatever.
http://photos.sgvtribune.com/2014/02/18/photos-transgender-student-pat-cordova-goff-first-day-softball-practice-at-azusa-high/#3

Totally agree with you, ATWT. But I swear...this is the last time, dammit!