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Is it too young to verbal/commit as a Freshman/Sophomore

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by Dugout Dad » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:03 pm

MavFan wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:
Dugout Dad wrote:
MavFan wrote:It is allowed, but I am not sure how common the 4 year scholarship is yet.

I have not heard of any in softball.

But over the years, several parents have told me their DD got a four year full ride, guaranteed deal. :roll: :lol:

I have not heard of any in football or basketball either. I do not think they are even being offered, even football.

Cars, women, jobs for their parents, cash all offered and accepted, but no word on multi-year rides.


Here is a link for you.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... holarships

Is this across the board for all sports or just football and men's basketball? Curious.
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by MavFan » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:12 pm

The option is available across the board, I don't think you will see many sports that are not head count sports offer it though, simply because it will lock them in. The scholarship is a four year agreement at that point and could not be reduced unless there is some sort of academic violation or behavioral situation. That would preclude college coaches from taking 10% of the scholarship for another player, either current or future.

That is how I understand the rule anyway. But as always, that is my opinion and does not represent the opinion of the NCAA, the Big Ten or this network....
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by 2BMOM » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:16 pm

yeah, yeah so I got the year wrong, I meant 2013s ... must not want to accept the passing of time. But I do know a girl who signed after graduation who was happy to end up where she did. My sentiment on the player involved in the original post remains the same.
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by ontheblack » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:39 am

2BMOM wrote:yeah, yeah so I got the year wrong, I meant 2013s ... must not want to accept the passing of time. But I do know a girl who signed after graduation who was happy to end up where she did. My sentiment on the player involved in the original post remains the same.


I figured you meant 2013. It was just to easy to pass up and not to take a swing would have been like Cabrera looking at that belt high called strike last night.
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by Blind Squirrel » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:25 am

It's only going to take one softball Lane Kiffen to get the ball rolling. One coach who gets a sought after pitcher he would never otherwise have gotten because he guaranteed free college to a family who didn't want to take any financial chances. Then the peers in his conference take note. And then ...

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by DonnieS » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:10 pm

I had the pleasure of spending some quality time with a D1 softball coach saturday afternoon. There were about 5 of us has-been coaches that were talking with her about recruiting - RMD was going on and we were asking her about when she was going over and when was she going to attend all 3 days of the RMD 18u. She said, "Nope - I have decided to get ahead of everyone else - I am heading over to the maternity ward at the hospital and just accept verbals from every girl child I see."
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by Jammed » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:19 pm

2BMOM was correct then. They are seeing 2012s verbal.
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by CheckWriter » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:18 pm

DD's coach (college) posted this on the team Facebook page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gs8X1RzQ1Gw#!

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by MTR » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:23 am

I noticed early on in the thread where someone noted that making a verbal commitment to a school ends all the recruiting craziness.

It may, but not really. If you DD is that good, there is nothing keeping possible offers from coming in whereas an NLI pretty much seals the deal and it is hands off for other coaches.
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by MavFan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:19 am

Spazsdad wrote:
MTR wrote:I noticed early on in the thread where someone noted that making a verbal commitment to a school ends all the recruiting craziness.

It may, but not really. If you DD is that good, there is nothing keeping possible offers from coming in whereas an NLI pretty much seals the deal and it is hands off for other coaches.

Yes it does since once a girl "verbals" the other coaches no longer persue the player. They move on and fill their needs elsewhere. Boys on the other hand are recruited until the last minute before they sign.
Us parents ain't so bright sometimes. Wouldnt it be nice to know you have a couple, or even several, options available until your Senior year?


And if softball was a head count sport, where everyone got a full ride, then we, as parents, would be a whole lot brighter. LOL

I think the reason you don't see the number of decommitments in softball as compared to football and men's basketball is two fold. 1) The scholarship budget for softball and other equivalency sports fluxuates with each offer made and accepted. So coaches feel the pressure to put a time limit on their offers, so that in the event the player doesn't take it, they can move on. 2) As of now, there isn't the 7 figure contracts and the immense pressure to win, so there is still a bit of comaraderie and respect between coaches, there isn't the need to negative recruit in order to steal recruits and such.

Yes there are some that do continue to recruit after the kid commits, but it is definitely not the norm or even prevalent.
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