2012s SATs

[Joe]

George W Bush went to Harvard(got is MBA)

So did Bill O'Reilly


So did a good chunk of the CEOs in America

Who lives in a fantasy world????

The last CMH was during the Vietnam war

1600's???(CMH did not exist until the mid 1800's

There are always a few who bucked the trend...and those conservatives were at least a generation before the numbnuts who are there now.

Spin it how you want...today's Harvard has gone the way of their 'other' graduates like Al Gore, the Kennedys, the O-man, ....and oh...Chuckie Schumer

Don't tell me you're shipping DD off to Cambridge to play softball?

[jonriv]

Wish she could have got in-grades not good enough. She going to play at a high-end undergrad biz school nearby

BTW

Here's a list of notable Harvard Bus School Grads- Not really a liberal bunch



Notable alumni
Main article: List of Harvard University people

* A. G. Lafley, '77 - Chairman of the Board of Procter & Gamble
* A. Sivathanu Pillai, '91 - CEO and MD of the BrahMos Aerospace and Chief Controller of the DRDO, India.
* Abigail Johnson, '88 - President of Fidelity Investments Personal and Workplace Investing
* Ann S. Moore, '78 CEO of Time Inc.
* Anne Dias-Griffin, '97 - Hedge Fund Manager of Aragon Global Management
* Anthony Leung, '82 - Financial Secretary of Hong Kong
* Charles Bunch, '79 - CEO of PPG Industries
* Chase Carey, '80 - President, Chief Operating Officer (COO), and Deputy Chairman of News Corporation
* Christopher McCormick, President and Chief Executive Officer of L.L. Bean
* Dan Bricklin, '79 - Inventor of the electronic spreadsheet
* Daniel A. D'Aniello, '74 - Co-founder of The Carlyle Group
* David Nelms, '87 - CEO of Discover Financial Services
* David Viniar, '80 - CFO and Executive Vice President of Goldman Sachs
* Dipali Goenka, - Director, Welspun Retail Ltd
* Donald J. Carty, '71 - Chairman and CEO of American Airlines
* Donna Dubinsky, '81 - CEO of Palm, Inc.
* Elaine Chao, '79 - U.S. Secretary of Labor
* Elisabeth DeMarse, '80 - Serial entrepreneur and CEO of Newser.com
* Fred Hassan, '72 CEO of Schering-Plough
* Fritz Henderson, former President and Chief Executive Officer of General Motors
* Gabi Ashkenazi - Chief of the General Staff, Israel Defense Forces.
* Gary Rodkin - CEO and President of ConAgra Foods
* George Kaiser - Chairman of BOK Financial Corporation
* George Schussel - Founder and former chairman of Digital Consulting Institute, founder of Jellicle Investors, Inc.
* George Walker Bush, '75 - 43rd President of the United States
* Gerald L. Storch, Chairman and CEO of Toys "R" Us, Inc.
* Gerald Tremblay, '72 - Mayor of Montreal, former Quebec's Minister of Industry, Commerce, Science and Technology
* Gunnar Sønsteby, '47 - Norwegian World War II resistance fighter, the most highly decorated person of Norway
* Henry Paulson, '70 - former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, former CEO of Goldman Sachs
* James Hackett '85 CEO of Anadarko Petroleum
* Jamie Dimon, '82 - CEO and Chairman of JP Morgan Chase & Co
* Jeffrey Immelt, '82 - Chairman and CEO of General Electric
* Jeffrey Skilling, '79 - Former CEO of Enron, convicted of securities fraud and insider trading
* Jim Balsillie, '89 - Co-CEO of Research in Motion and billionaire
* John B. Hess, '77 - CEO of Hess
* John C. Whitehead '47 - former Co-Chairman of Goldman Sachs
* John Paulson - president of Paulson & Co., a New York-based hedge fund
* John Thain, '79 - former CEO of Merrill Lynch
* Len Blavatnik '89 - Russian-American businessman
* Mark Albion '82 - Author, Social Entrepreneur, Co-Founder of Net Impact
* Meg Whitman, '79 - Former CEO of eBay
* Michael Bloomberg, '66 - Publisher, financial news and information services executive, billionaire, and Mayor of New York City
* Michael Lynton, '87 - Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment
* Michael Mullen - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, United States armed forces
* Mitt Romney, '75 - 70th Governor of Massachusetts, co-founder of Bain Capital, 2008 presidential contender
* Morten Friis '79 - Chief Risk Officer of Royal Bank of Canada
* P Chidambaram, '68 - Union Minister of Home Affairs, India
* Rahul Bajaj, '62 - CEO of Bajaj Auto
* Ram Charan, '65 - Noted Management Consultant and Business Author
* Ratan Tata, '75 - Chairman and CEO Tata Sons
* Ray Dalio - founded Bridgewater Associates
* Raymond W. Baker, '60 - Director of Global Financial Integrity
* Rick Wagoner, '77 - Former CEO of General Motors
* Robert Kraft, '65 - Chairman and CEO of The Kraft Group, owner of the New England Patriots
* Robert McNamara - former Secretary of Defense and former President of the World Bank
* Salman Khan (educator), '03 - Founder of Khan Academy
* Sheldon Erikson, '70 - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer of Cameron
* Shikhar Ghosh, '80 - Serial entrepreneur, MBA Class of 1961 Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School
* Stacie Scott Turner, - Cast member of The Real Housewives of DC, top-selling real estate agent, active political fund-raiser, and philanthropist
* Stephen A. Schwarzman, '72 - Founder of Blackstone Group
* Tarek Ben Halim, Investment Banker and founder of Alfanar, a venture philanthropy organization.
* Trevor Fetter '86 - CEO of Tenet Healthcare
* Vittorio Colao, current Chief Executive of Vodafone Group
* W. James McNerney, Jr., '75 - CEO of Boeing
* William MacDonald, '42 - Christian preacher and writer in the Plymouth Brethren movement
* Y C Deveshwar, - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of ITC Limited
* Zoe Cruz, '82 - former Co-President of Morgan Stanley
* Timothy I. Ahern - U.S. Air Force Major General

[Joe]

Wish she could have got in-grades not good enough. She going to play at a high-end undergrad biz school nearby

BTW

Here's a list of notable Harvard Bus School Grads- Not really a liberal bunch



Notable alumni
Main article: List of Harvard University people

* A. G. Lafley, '77 - Chairman of the Board of Procter & Gamble
* A. Sivathanu Pillai, '91 - CEO and MD of the BrahMos Aerospace and Chief Controller of the DRDO, India.
* Abigail Johnson, '88 - President of Fidelity Investments Personal and Workplace Investing
* Ann S. Moore, '78 CEO of Time Inc.
* Anne Dias-Griffin, '97 - Hedge Fund Manager of Aragon Global Management
* Anthony Leung, '82 - Financial Secretary of Hong Kong
* Charles Bunch, '79 - CEO of PPG Industries
* Chase Carey, '80 - President, Chief Operating Officer (COO), and Deputy Chairman of News Corporation
* Christopher McCormick, President and Chief Executive Officer of L.L. Bean
* Dan Bricklin, '79 - Inventor of the electronic spreadsheet
* Daniel A. D'Aniello, '74 - Co-founder of The Carlyle Group
* David Nelms, '87 - CEO of Discover Financial Services
* David Viniar, '80 - CFO and Executive Vice President of Goldman Sachs
* Dipali Goenka, - Director, Welspun Retail Ltd
* Donald J. Carty, '71 - Chairman and CEO of American Airlines
* Donna Dubinsky, '81 - CEO of Palm, Inc.
* Elaine Chao, '79 - U.S. Secretary of Labor
* Elisabeth DeMarse, '80 - Serial entrepreneur and CEO of Newser.com
* Fred Hassan, '72 CEO of Schering-Plough
* Fritz Henderson, former President and Chief Executive Officer of General Motors
* Gabi Ashkenazi - Chief of the General Staff, Israel Defense Forces.
* Gary Rodkin - CEO and President of ConAgra Foods
* George Kaiser - Chairman of BOK Financial Corporation
* George Schussel - Founder and former chairman of Digital Consulting Institute, founder of Jellicle Investors, Inc.
* George Walker Bush, '75 - 43rd President of the United States
* Gerald L. Storch, Chairman and CEO of Toys "R" Us, Inc.
* Gerald Tremblay, '72 - Mayor of Montreal, former Quebec's Minister of Industry, Commerce, Science and Technology
* Gunnar Sønsteby, '47 - Norwegian World War II resistance fighter, the most highly decorated person of Norway
* Henry Paulson, '70 - former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, former CEO of Goldman Sachs
* James Hackett '85 CEO of Anadarko Petroleum
* Jamie Dimon, '82 - CEO and Chairman of JP Morgan Chase & Co
* Jeffrey Immelt, '82 - Chairman and CEO of General Electric
* Jeffrey Skilling, '79 - Former CEO of Enron, convicted of securities fraud and insider trading
* Jim Balsillie, '89 - Co-CEO of Research in Motion and billionaire
* John B. Hess, '77 - CEO of Hess
* John C. Whitehead '47 - former Co-Chairman of Goldman Sachs
* John Paulson - president of Paulson & Co., a New York-based hedge fund
* John Thain, '79 - former CEO of Merrill Lynch
* Len Blavatnik '89 - Russian-American businessman
* Mark Albion '82 - Author, Social Entrepreneur, Co-Founder of Net Impact
* Meg Whitman, '79 - Former CEO of eBay
* Michael Bloomberg, '66 - Publisher, financial news and information services executive, billionaire, and Mayor of New York City
* Michael Lynton, '87 - Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment
* Michael Mullen - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, United States armed forces
* Mitt Romney, '75 - 70th Governor of Massachusetts, co-founder of Bain Capital, 2008 presidential contender
* Morten Friis '79 - Chief Risk Officer of Royal Bank of Canada
* P Chidambaram, '68 - Union Minister of Home Affairs, India
* Rahul Bajaj, '62 - CEO of Bajaj Auto
* Ram Charan, '65 - Noted Management Consultant and Business Author
* Ratan Tata, '75 - Chairman and CEO Tata Sons
* Ray Dalio - founded Bridgewater Associates
* Raymond W. Baker, '60 - Director of Global Financial Integrity
* Rick Wagoner, '77 - Former CEO of General Motors
* Robert Kraft, '65 - Chairman and CEO of The Kraft Group, owner of the New England Patriots
* Robert McNamara - former Secretary of Defense and former President of the World Bank
* Salman Khan (educator), '03 - Founder of Khan Academy
* Sheldon Erikson, '70 - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer of Cameron
* Shikhar Ghosh, '80 - Serial entrepreneur, MBA Class of 1961 Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School
* Stacie Scott Turner, - Cast member of The Real Housewives of DC, top-selling real estate agent, active political fund-raiser, and philanthropist
* Stephen A. Schwarzman, '72 - Founder of Blackstone Group
* Tarek Ben Halim, Investment Banker and founder of Alfanar, a venture philanthropy organization.
* Trevor Fetter '86 - CEO of Tenet Healthcare
* Vittorio Colao, current Chief Executive of Vodafone Group
* W. James McNerney, Jr., '75 - CEO of Boeing
* William MacDonald, '42 - Christian preacher and writer in the Plymouth Brethren movement
* Y C Deveshwar, - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of ITC Limited
* Zoe Cruz, '82 - former Co-President of Morgan Stanley
* Timothy I. Ahern - U.S. Air Force Major General

And all from a generation ago. Nice cherry-picking though...

[jonriv]

Certainly not the Airborne I know- we were usually holding and area and waiting for others to finally get there

Most of the Marines I know could not spell ACT

Oh, okay! I see...

...you must have served after they repealed "don't ask". Qualifications after the repeal were rather 'loose'.

To set the record straight-

I "retired" in 2001 after 14 years including stint in the reserves. This does not include my 2 yeas as a cadet when i went to Airborne school(without being paid)

During my time in I was a rifle platoon leader, an 81mm mortar platoon leader, an executive officer and a detachment commander. I have seen many posers and wannabees such as yourself that if they ever did serve(doubtful) it was usually in the rear with the gear as a REMF. If you want to know my political leanings- I am true and true Republican.

What concerns me about guys like you Joe- is that you sit there in your double-wide and blame the whole world for your problems- your no better than some of the liberal-weenies i know except they blame it all on the conservatives

This country is what it is because of the exchange of different and contrary ideas- I may not agree with everyone's idea's, but I am and was willing to fight for that right. There is a thing from sales training I heard once that you should listen to Joe, "God gave you two ears and only on mouth for a reason- you should listen more than you talk."

[jonriv]

Ok Joe? What is your idea of a good school?

[Joe]

To set the record straight-

I "retired" in 2001 after 14 years including stint in the reserves. This does not include my 2 yeas as a cadet when i went to Airborne school(without being paid)

During my time in I was a rifle platoon leader, an 81mm mortar platoon leader, an executive officer and a detachment commander. I have seen many posers and wannabees such as yourself that if they ever did serve(doubtful) it was usually in the rear with the gear as a REMF. If you want to know my political leanings- I am true and true Republican.

What concerns me about guys like you Joe- is that you sit there in your double-wide and blame the whole world for your problems- your no better than some of the liberal-weenies i know except they blame it all on the conservatives

This country is what it is because of the exchange of different and contrary ideas- I may not agree with everyone's idea's, but I am and was willing to fight for that right. There is a thing from sales training I heard once that you should listen to Joe, "God gave you two ears and only on mouth for a reason- you should listen more than you talk."

Soooo....let me get this straight??? When they repealed "don't ask" did you ask for re-instatement and 'backside' pay? Do they have docs at the VA who are able to tighten loose ends? Did you get a purple heart for taking one for the Gipper?

[Joe]

Ok Joe? What is your idea of a good school?

Any school located in downtown Austin...and bleeds orange.

[jonriv]

To set the record straight-

I "retired" in 2001 after 14 years including stint in the reserves. This does not include my 2 yeas as a cadet when i went to Airborne school(without being paid)

During my time in I was a rifle platoon leader, an 81mm mortar platoon leader, an executive officer and a detachment commander. I have seen many posers and wannabees such as yourself that if they ever did serve(doubtful) it was usually in the rear with the gear as a REMF. If you want to know my political leanings- I am true and true Republican.

What concerns me about guys like you Joe- is that you sit there in your double-wide and blame the whole world for your problems- your no better than some of the liberal-weenies i know except they blame it all on the conservatives

This country is what it is because of the exchange of different and contrary ideas- I may not agree with everyone's idea's, but I am and was willing to fight for that right. There is a thing from sales training I heard once that you should listen to Joe, "God gave you two ears and only on mouth for a reason- you should listen more than you talk."

Soooo....let me get this straight??? When they repealed "don't ask" did you ask for re-instatement and 'backside' pay? Do they have docs at the VA who are able to tighten loose ends? Did you get a purple heart for taking one for the Gipper?

Joe I am worried about you- when that facts don't support you or you feel threatened you go right to the homophobic remarks- is there something you are hiding or covering up? Don't worry Joe, you can talk to us. We are here for you....

[jonriv]

Ok Joe? What is your idea of a good school?

Any school located in downtown Austin...and bleeds orange.

Lets see- Harvard accepts 7% of applicants, Texas accepts 43% -Which is the better school??????

[Klegg]

Live in Oklahoma. My DD is an honor student and scored high on her ACT. She's getting offers from TONS of schools in the midwest. In fact, NOT A KID on her team has taken the SAT. NO ONE around here takes the SAT.

BTW, Texas sucks!!!