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by softballdad » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:34 pm

Get your facts straight starbound a team. Last time I checked it was an Organization not a team that hosted toys 4 tots. My DD plays for that team and our team had nothing to do with the tournament. Now the trophies. Two teams tied for 2nd place who orders 2nd place trophies for 2 teams?
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by jofus » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:28 am

In my boy's pony league last year (pony is machine pitch, 7-8 year olds, and way more serious for some of the parents than it should be), we played a team that got worse and worse at the umps (who are volunteer dads and moms that coach other teams) and at one point a few of them were up shaking the fence between their dugout and home plate like a bunch of stinking monkeys in a zoo or something. Our manager turned to me and said "I'm not letting our kids play out there with them acting like that, I'm pulling them off the field". About then a Little League board member, who's kid was on that team, so he was on their side of the field, finally told them that they were gonna get kicked out if they didn't calm down.

Thankfully, most people that act like that are gone from the ball fields at the older ages when it should be a little more serious.
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by Randi Jo » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:31 am

Starbound - it's never been a secret....this policy has been posted on our tournament website since 2005.

Rain Out Policy -
Number of Games Played Refund Amount
Partial Rain Out, (2) Complete games $200
Partial Rain Out, (1) Complete game $250
Total Rain Out, No games $300
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by starbound » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:53 am

How do you know I was talking about your team or organization you must have some guilt. There are Toys 4 Tots everywhere in the country. So are you guilty of over charging on a rain out and that is why you are spouting off? Triple Crown got rained out and they only kept $50 and they have paid employees. I guess maybe they didn't have to pay for muddy field permits. :lol:
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by milkman » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:14 am

EVERYONE KNOWS... THE CITY CHARGES DOUBLE FOR MUDY FIELDS. :shock: :shock:
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by Demonboy » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:56 am

Skarp wrote:
Spazsdad wrote:
Skarp wrote:Sweet!!! Is there like an actual prize that I get?


Hey Skarp, I'll give you an "Atta Boy" 8-) 8-) 8-)


hehehe :mrgreen:

That's okay. I just feel really warm inside knowing that there are people out there like Kate and Mexican Mafia Prison Guy. People of such high character and righteousness that they are uncomfortable with even the idea that classless behavior might be aired in a public forum such as this one....Errrrr...except, I guess, when it comes to their own opinions of what constitutes classlessness, which they are obviously all-too-happy to share in a public forum such as this one.


Never underestimate the hypocrisy of the American public. :D

Since I don't want to get down in the muck and mire of classlessness, I will not mention any 18 Gold teams like the Raiders or Valley Breeze.
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by fasterpitch92701 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:02 am

Well... back on the original subject... I will decline the opportunity to name the two teams that come to mind. However, some of their actions are well known and have happened over an extended period of time. Read; an established pattern of coached behavior.

- Batter runs down first and intentionally steps on the first basemans foot in a purposeful effort to injure. Possible career ending move that deserves a major civil lawsuit.

- Runner comes into home, obviously out by a week and a half and tries to slide not at the plate but at the catchers upper thighs, feet up, thrusting the legs forward to injure. Same thing at third and second.

- Runner out on a force at home by 15 feet and blindsides the catcher (away from the plate) full force.

- Same team, on defense, force out at home, runner out by 15 feet (3rd out) and slows up, the catcher flattens the runner then throws the ball into the runners facemask while shes on the ground (Bloomington 12U Nats, 2006).

- Batter takes an abnormally and painfully obvious rear-and-out swing to intentionally hit the catchers head/helmet or glove.

- Coach sends on-deck batter to the opposing sides circle to warm up. Don't know if that's legal now but was at one time.

- Coach sends to multiple assistants out on the sidelines.... one on the backside of the fence in center field to coach/call plays to the outfield. One behind the plate to call plays for the catcher at home, including set-ups. On offense, the coach behind the backstop calls any set-up movement by the catcher to the batter.

- Coach condones the players to, at the end of a losing game, spit in their hand prior to the nice-game-walkby.

- Bean-balls.

- Any coach that would encourage (or not stop) personal, abusive insults by their players OR their parents directed at opposing players.

Not just a SoCal thing. There was one central valley team well known for such antics.
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by Judd » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:47 am

fasterpitch92701 wrote:
- Coach sends on-deck batter to the opposing sides circle to warm up. Don't know if that's legal now but was at one time.



I know ASA had a rule against this, I dont see the point though. In all the rec games and tournaments (USFA, GSA, ISA) we always send our girls to the circle behind the batter, whichever side that is. The umpires have even called time and made the on deck hitter move behind the hitter if they were in front of the hitter. never had a problem with players taunting, etc and it just seems much safer
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by Skarp » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:47 am

fasterpitch92701 wrote:Well... back on the original subject... I will decline the opportunity to name the two teams that come to mind. However, some of their actions are well known and have happened over an extended period of time. Read; an established pattern of coached behavior.

- Batter runs down first and intentionally steps on the first basemans foot in a purposeful effort to injure. Possible career ending move that deserves a major civil lawsuit.

- Runner comes into home, obviously out by a week and a half and tries to slide not at the plate but at the catchers upper thighs, feet up, thrusting the legs forward to injure. Same thing at third and second.

- Runner out on a force at home by 15 feet and blindsides the catcher (away from the plate) full force.

- Same team, on defense, force out at home, runner out by 15 feet (3rd out) and slows up, the catcher flattens the runner then throws the ball into the runners facemask while shes on the ground (Bloomington 12U Nats, 2006).

- Batter takes an abnormally and painfully obvious rear-and-out swing to intentionally hit the catchers head/helmet or glove.

- Coach sends on-deck batter to the opposing sides circle to warm up. Don't know if that's legal now but was at one time.

- Coach sends to multiple assistants out on the sidelines.... one on the backside of the fence in center field to coach/call plays to the outfield. One behind the plate to call plays for the catcher at home, including set-ups. On offense, the coach behind the backstop calls any set-up movement by the catcher to the batter.

- Coach condones the players to, at the end of a losing game, spit in their hand prior to the nice-game-walkby.

- Bean-balls.

- Any coach that would encourage (or not stop) personal, abusive insults by their players OR their parents directed at opposing players.

Not just a SoCal thing. There was one central valley team well known for such antics.


Okay, so this is exactly what I'm talking about. There is no reason to be reticent (there is nothing unclassy) about calling this team out by name. Teams that pull that kind of garbage shouldn't be able to line up a game in a sandlot.
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by Sam » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:24 pm

If you are going to call out a team....why not? Just make sure that you state who you are also?
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