Anderson Bat Q & A

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So what is in the McDonalds Special Sauce and what is the recipe for the herbs and spices found in Kentucky Fried Chicken?

DDs swing the new 2010 TechZilla. Of course- she picked it because it's purple; her favorite color. Luckily, she likes it very much.

[Tumblebug]

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 What is an “All Metal Composite?”
Resin-over-fiber is a composite structure. A proprietary high strength, extremely-elastic-exotic alloy over a well-engineered-aluminum alloy with a particularly high strength to weight ratio is a composite structure. Our all-metal composite is the later. Understandably the details are closely guarded.

An alloy is a mixture of different base metals to create a specific metal with specific properties. Calling an alloy a composite is redundant. Call a bat made with two alloys an all metal composite is simply marketing trying to convince a buyer that they should pay "Resin-over-fiber composite" price for an alloy bat ( see RIP IT alloy bats for reference )

IF you can make an "all metal composite" that performs as well as some of the "resin over fiber composite" bats in use out there why don't I see any colleges swinging all metal composites? If you pull it off great for you.

I have no beef with Anderson I think they make great "composite" bats. What he said is true about a brick being a composite. A wood bat is actually a pretty good example of a composite material becase the hard layers of sap and the softer wood fibers that are bound by the sap make a natural composite material. What composite technology has done is simply improve on the sap(resin) and wood fiber(carbon fibers)

I was a composite structures specialist at McDonnell Douglas in what seems like another lifetime. So I have some experience aside from bats. Although I understand the correlation you are making, comparing a live organic composition with naturally occurring ingredients to an engineered (RTM) resin over wound or woven fiber is a bit of a stretch. Nature’s composite designer would be whom, god? A while back there were experiments done with laminating different wood slices together to change the strength properties of the structure of the bat based on mixing different wood species. That would truly be a composite wood structure.

As I stated in my post, the identification of a composite structure is based on inextricably combining separate materials to improve the physical/mechanical properties of the combined configuration. The materials are combined but remain separate materials.

An alloy is composed of base metals and constituent elements that are heated to a liquid state wherein all of the ingredients become a single homogenous material. Calling an alloy a composite isn’t redundant; it is incorrect. However, one alloy inextricably combined with another where they remain individual materials after construction and improve the mechanical structure of the end product is a composite by definition and an all metal composite is achieved by making specific metal material choices.

We had major reservations about calling this a composite product for several reasons. I think that resin-over-fiber construction is a poor choice for impact applications because interlayer delamination will always be a problem. We did a complete development project of a resin/fiber bat and the result was great. But the failure rate was nearly three times that of aluminum and the failure was catastrophic rather than gradual; meaning that they broke rather than dented from fatigue. We also struggled with making a fiber composite that wasn’t easily altered. Because of the possible confusion as to what a composite might be and the restrictions being imposed on the performance and certification of “composites” we did not really want to hook our wagon to that falling star.

In live field testing the new NanoTek slowpitch bat performed better out of the wrapper than several of the best selling composite competitors that were already broken in. We can make it hotter because there is no break-in and the bat does not improve past the legal limit so the ABI testing rules do not apply.

Several college baseball programs are using the NanoTek product and our Team Anderson recently won a Gold Medal at the USA Baseball 16u Championships (used to be called the Junior Olympics) in Peoria AZ using the NanoTek exclusively. It is still a new release so stay tuned . . .

[Skarp]

I was a composite structures specialist at McDonnell Douglas in what seems like another lifetime. So I have some experience aside from bats. Although I understand the correlation you are making, comparing a live organic composition with naturally occurring ingredients to an engineered (RTM) resin over wound or woven fiber is a bit of a stretch. Nature’s composite designer would be whom, god? A while back there were experiments done with laminating different wood slices together to change the strength properties of the structure of the bat based on mixing different wood species. That would truly be a composite wood structure.

As I stated in my post, the identification of a composite structure is based on inextricably combining separate materials to improve the physical/mechanical properties of the combined configuration. The materials are combined but remain separate materials.

An alloy is composed of base metals and constituent elements that are heated to a liquid state wherein all of the ingredients become a single homogenous material. Calling an alloy a composite isn’t redundant; it is incorrect. However, one alloy inextricably combined with another where they remain individual materials after construction and improve the mechanical structure of the end product is a composite by definition and an all metal composite is achieved by making specific metal material choices.

We had major reservations about calling this a composite product for several reasons. I think that resin-over-fiber construction is a poor choice for impact applications because interlayer delamination will always be a problem. We did a complete development project of a resin/fiber bat and the result was great. But the failure rate was nearly three times that of aluminum and the failure was catastrophic rather than gradual; meaning that they broke rather than dented from fatigue. We also struggled with making a fiber composite that wasn’t easily altered. Because of the possible confusion as to what a composite might be and the restrictions being imposed on the performance and certification of “composites” we did not really want to hook our wagon to that falling star.

In live field testing the new NanoTek slowpitch bat performed better out of the wrapper than several of the best selling composite competitors that were already broken in. We can make it hotter because there is no break-in and the bat does not improve past the legal limit so the ABI testing rules do not apply.

Several college baseball programs are using the NanoTek product and our Team Anderson recently won a Gold Medal at the USA Baseball 16u Championships (used to be called the Junior Olympics) in Peoria AZ using the NanoTek exclusively. It is still a new release so stay tuned . . .

Mixed metaphors quite aside, Skarp officially certifies Mr. Anderson as one fart smeller...errr, I mean one smart feller. And anyone who quotes Twain is okey-dokey in my book.

[Demonboy]

I was a composite structures specialist at McDonnell Douglas in what seems like another lifetime. So I have some experience aside from bats. Although I understand the correlation you are making, comparing a live organic composition with naturally occurring ingredients to an engineered (RTM) resin over wound or woven fiber is a bit of a stretch. Nature’s composite designer would be whom, god? A while back there were experiments done with laminating different wood slices together to change the strength properties of the structure of the bat based on mixing different wood species. That would truly be a composite wood structure.

As I stated in my post, the identification of a composite structure is based on inextricably combining separate materials to improve the physical/mechanical properties of the combined configuration. The materials are combined but remain separate materials.

An alloy is composed of base metals and constituent elements that are heated to a liquid state wherein all of the ingredients become a single homogenous material. Calling an alloy a composite isn’t redundant; it is incorrect. However, one alloy inextricably combined with another where they remain individual materials after construction and improve the mechanical structure of the end product is a composite by definition and an all metal composite is achieved by making specific metal material choices.

We had major reservations about calling this a composite product for several reasons. I think that resin-over-fiber construction is a poor choice for impact applications because interlayer delamination will always be a problem. We did a complete development project of a resin/fiber bat and the result was great. But the failure rate was nearly three times that of aluminum and the failure was catastrophic rather than gradual; meaning that they broke rather than dented from fatigue. We also struggled with making a fiber composite that wasn’t easily altered. Because of the possible confusion as to what a composite might be and the restrictions being imposed on the performance and certification of “composites” we did not really want to hook our wagon to that falling star.

In live field testing the new NanoTek slowpitch bat performed better out of the wrapper than several of the best selling composite competitors that were already broken in. We can make it hotter because there is no break-in and the bat does not improve past the legal limit so the ABI testing rules do not apply.

Several college baseball programs are using the NanoTek product and our Team Anderson recently won a Gold Medal at the USA Baseball 16u Championships (used to be called the Junior Olympics) in Peoria AZ using the NanoTek exclusively. It is still a new release so stay tuned . . .

Mixed metaphors quite aside, Skarp officially certifies Mr. Anderson as one fart smeller...errr, I mean one smart feller. And anyone who quotes Twain is okey-dokey in my book.

Whatever, Shania Twain sucks out loud.

"Exit the warrior today's Tom Sawyer.......Holler nuff!"

[RT4ever]

Mr. Anderson,

I've been anticipating the release of the NanoTek softball bat for a while now -- ever since the NanoTek baseball bat was released! I love Anderson products, and I'm sure the Nanotek SB will be the next in what has become a long line of the highest quality metal softball bats on the market!

One concern: In regards to the NanoTek slowpitch bat, do you plan to actually have the word, "composite" anywhere on the bat?

I play in a metal only league, and if any of the umps see the word "composite" on any bat, it's instantly thrown out. That's right, we are NOT allowed to use the RocketTech Composite Killer in our league.

There are many, MANY others who I've talked to who have said the same.

I can't wait for the NanoTek to come out, but is there any way we could keep any mention of the word, "composite" off the bat?

[Tumblebug]

I was a composite structures specialist at McDonnell Douglas in what seems like another lifetime. So I have some experience aside from bats. Although I understand the correlation you are making, comparing a live organic composition with naturally occurring ingredients to an engineered (RTM) resin over wound or woven fiber is a bit of a stretch. Nature’s composite designer would be whom, god? A while back there were experiments done with laminating different wood slices together to change the strength properties of the structure of the bat based on mixing different wood species. That would truly be a composite wood structure.

As I stated in my post, the identification of a composite structure is based on inextricably combining separate materials to improve the physical/mechanical properties of the combined configuration. The materials are combined but remain separate materials.

An alloy is composed of base metals and constituent elements that are heated to a liquid state wherein all of the ingredients become a single homogenous material. Calling an alloy a composite isn’t redundant; it is incorrect. However, one alloy inextricably combined with another where they remain individual materials after construction and improve the mechanical structure of the end product is a composite by definition and an all metal composite is achieved by making specific metal material choices.

We had major reservations about calling this a composite product for several reasons. I think that resin-over-fiber construction is a poor choice for impact applications because interlayer delamination will always be a problem. We did a complete development project of a resin/fiber bat and the result was great. But the failure rate was nearly three times that of aluminum and the failure was catastrophic rather than gradual; meaning that they broke rather than dented from fatigue. We also struggled with making a fiber composite that wasn’t easily altered. Because of the possible confusion as to what a composite might be and the restrictions being imposed on the performance and certification of “composites” we did not really want to hook our wagon to that falling star.

In live field testing the new NanoTek slowpitch bat performed better out of the wrapper than several of the best selling composite competitors that were already broken in. We can make it hotter because there is no break-in and the bat does not improve past the legal limit so the ABI testing rules do not apply.

Several college baseball programs are using the NanoTek product and our Team Anderson recently won a Gold Medal at the USA Baseball 16u Championships (used to be called the Junior Olympics) in Peoria AZ using the NanoTek exclusively. It is still a new release so stay tuned . . .

Mixed metaphors quite aside, Skarp officially certifies Mr. Anderson as one fart smeller...errr, I mean one smart feller. And anyone who quotes Twain is okey-dokey in my book.

Whatever, Shania Twain sucks out loud.

"Exit the warrior today's Tom Sawyer.......Holler nuff!"

I believe that was a characterization using the imagery from a colloquial allegory.

I have never let schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain

[Tumblebug]

Mr. Anderson,

I've been anticipating the release of the NanoTek softball bat for a while now -- ever since the NanoTek baseball bat was released! I love Anderson products, and I'm sure the Nanotek SB will be the next in what has become a long line of the highest quality metal softball bats on the market!

One concern: In regards to the NanoTek slowpitch bat, do you plan to actually have the word, "composite" anywhere on the bat?

I play in a metal only league, and if any of the umps see the word "composite" on any bat, it's instantly thrown out. That's right, we are NOT allowed to use the RocketTech Composite Killer in our league.

There are many, MANY others who I've talked to who have said the same.

I can't wait for the NanoTek to come out, but is there any way we could keep any mention of the word, "composite" off the bat?

We actually used the term "All Metal Composite" you won't see that on the baseball bats. It was a decision made after the BB bats were released.

[RT4ever]

Mr. Anderson,

I've been anticipating the release of the NanoTek softball bat for a while now -- ever since the NanoTek baseball bat was released! I love Anderson products, and I'm sure the Nanotek SB will be the next in what has become a long line of the highest quality metal softball bats on the market!

One concern: In regards to the NanoTek slowpitch bat, do you plan to actually have the word, "composite" anywhere on the bat?

I play in a metal only league, and if any of the umps see the word "composite" on any bat, it's instantly thrown out. That's right, we are NOT allowed to use the RocketTech Composite Killer in our league.

There are many, MANY others who I've talked to who have said the same.

I can't wait for the NanoTek to come out, but is there any way we could keep any mention of the word, "composite" off the bat?

We actually used the term "All Metal Composite" you won't see that on the baseball bats. It was a decision made after the BB bats were released.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Okay, the "All Metal" part may be good enough for the umps around here.

What I've done in the past whenever a metal bat has been in question (example: Reaper BCT) was to print out the bat's specs from the manufacturer's website.

Will the Anderson site explicitly state that the NanoTek is a 100% metal bat? And maybe it could also explain why the company decided to call it an "All Metal Composite"?

I apologize if I'm nit-picking. I know this is going to be a great bat -- I just want to be able to use it.

P.S. Is there a time-table in regards to the bat's release?

[nohesitation]

I'm new to HeyBucket but as the Anderson Bat Chief Engineer, I invite you to ask any technical questions you may have about Anderson Bats in particular or the physics of the ball/bat collision in general.

Steven Anderson
Anderson Bat Company, LLC

Steven,
Thanks for a stimulating read. My daughter swings the old -10 Stealth two-piece bat, purple and white, but don’t hold that against me. She picked that bat over the Rocket-Tech bat because she liked the feel of a center-loaded bat. I noticed 3 hair-line cracks about ½” long just above the black rubber spacer, so the time has come to look for a new bat. I feel that a big part of the customer loyalty towards these two great bats is due to the difference in feel, as one is center-loaded while the other is end-loaded.

Hear are my questions:
Does Rocket-Tech have a center-loaded bat? If not why?
By widening the contact area do you diminish the sweet spot?
How far is the sweet spot moved from a Stealth to a Rocket-Tech?
How would you compare the difference in length of the sweet spot for a Stealth and a Rocket-Tech?

Finally, I have heard that the speed of the bat has a greater influence on the ball than the weight of the bat. What is your feeling on this?
Is there a force chart that compares bat speed to weight?

[Daddylawman]

I'll leave the rest to folks smarter than me , but the Techzilla is Anderson's balanced bat - and it's a great bat