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Heybucket player/coach butthurt form

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by artomatic » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:40 am

Safebyahare wrote:
Hurricane wrote:Forgot a biggie:

______ Coach destroyed a 13year old girl's confidence and love of the game.

unfortunately, this happens too many times and the other bystander coaches/parents sit and let it happen. We are not talking 16 or 18's....we are talking about impressionable young athletes who still are working their way to play at the next level.
Let's face it..at some point, we are all guilty of being bystanders by allowing it to happen...too afraid to say something for fear of retribution.
Shame on all of us.

The OP was for fun and to make light of what frustrates parents/players/ going through the gauntlet that is travelball.
It was not to be about bulling or tearing apart or breaking a young girl.
In hindsight my dd has been demeaned, put down, put out,and pulled apart with this game.
Some times it was the coach, sometimes it was politics, sometimes it was unfair, sometimes it was ability, sometimes it was me.
I don't know how to post pictures but if you saw my dd when she was young, you would see a thin small twig of a girl.
If you saw me, you would see an ass, who pushed sometimes too hard and sometimes had expectations too high.
We found the balance and persevered. She became stronger mentally and learned life isn't fair and you don't always get what you put into it. But sometimes it is recognized and shows.


Ride hard, and enjoy the ride, love the sport, but if you get butthurt,,,,well we have a form for that.

Safebyahare, our journey is very similar to yours. Well, except the part of your kid being "a thin small twig of a girl." That was never my kid. But she did hit a growth spurt around 13 that changed her from basically short and squat to a beautiful athletic young woman.

Regarding yelling, demeaning the girls, many of these things I learned along the way, sometimes the hard way, coaching and watching my kid from t-ball to present day, having just finished her first year of college,
My opinion is nothing good ever comes from yelling. It never ceases to amaze me that parents will put up with a screaming lunatic of a coach, when they would NEVER tolerate that behavior from a teacher, or a boss in the workplace.

tbjd33, I'm not talking about being tough. I agree with you, nothing wrong with being a tough coach. In fact, a tough, fair coach will teach these girls alot about having to work hard in the real world as an adult. I'm talking about the temper tantrums, yelling at umps, yelling at a kid across the field who just made an error. Ridiculous, childish behavior that no one should ever tolerate.

Oh, and the butthurt form, damn wish I had one back when I coached...
Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
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by guero_gordo » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:30 pm

Umm, pretty sure I was on point. Coach gets butthurt because team plays tight, but is thoroughly clueless that he is the problem. Lighten up.
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by Hurricane » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:45 am

guero_gordo wrote:Team plays tight, will continue screaming at them until improvment happens.


guero_gordo wrote:Umm, pretty sure I was on point. Coach gets butthurt because team plays tight, but is thoroughly clueless that he is the problem. Lighten up.


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here's your two posts...in post #2, you added a phrase that was critical to a better comprehension of your first post: "Coach gets butthurt....but is thoroughly clueless that he is the problem."

That changes the entire direction of your first post. Thanks for the clarification of your first post. Then, I would've replied differently.

Now, learn to communicate. :D
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by guero_gordo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:30 am

There's a bumper sticker/t-shirt that says "The beatings will continue until morale improves". Since you probably never got that one either, post #2 can light your way to enlightenment. ;-)
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by PDad » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:40 pm

Hurricane wrote:
guero_gordo wrote:Team plays tight, will continue screaming at them until improvment happens.

um, I think you're missing the point. Of course if the team is playing tight and not performing like you had coached them, then they deserve to be chided.

How does screaming at the players loosen them up so they can play at their normal capability?
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by PDad » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:42 pm

guero_gordo wrote:There's a bumper sticker/t-shirt that says "The beatings will continue until morale improves". Since you probably never got that one either, post #2 can light your way to enlightenment. ;-)

A 'Bucket regular had that for their signature line years ago> Anyone remember whom it was?
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by Battle » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:06 pm

PDad wrote:
guero_gordo wrote:There's a bumper sticker/t-shirt that says "The beatings will continue until morale improves". Since you probably never got that one either, post #2 can light your way to enlightenment. ;-)

A 'Bucket regular had that for their signature line years ago> Anyone remember whom it was?

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by Safebyahare » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:47 pm

Added and edited OP in yes no category.
(Y) (N) Did you post and describe the butthurt on Heybucket?
(Y) (N) Did Spazsdad care?
Last edited by Safebyahare on Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:18 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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by Hurricane » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:48 pm

PDad wrote:
Hurricane wrote:
guero_gordo wrote:Team plays tight, will continue screaming at them until improvment happens.

um, I think you're missing the point. Of course if the team is playing tight and not performing like you had coached them, then they deserve to be chided.

How does screaming at the players loosen them up so they can play at their normal capability?


just to be clear: I did say they should be "chided", that doesn't mean "screamed" at either....

chided = to express disapproval of; scold; reproach: The coach chided the girls for their poor effort.
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by Safebyahare » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:56 pm

Amend and add:
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Parent/Player Course of Action,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
( ) Return Uniform and Equipment pay any back dues and quit team.
( ) Cause a great scene in front of team.
( ) Stiff them for dues.
( ) Tell coach off.
( ) Stay and duct tape mouth.
( ) Always stand in line of sight of coach and stare down.
( ) Leave quietly, and plot revenge.
( ) Make dd practice every day regardless of weather.
( ) Show him when dd is #1 player on D1 in college, and email pics.
( ) Volleyball?
( ) Remind dd what she is doing wtong.
( ) Gloss over mistakes and praise the positives.
( ) Ask dd what she wants from sport.
( ) Ask dd what she thinks the coach wants. How to get there.
( ) Don't ask dd, this is a coach issue.
( ) Shop better next time.
( ) Analyze and adjust in a real way to improve.
( ) Bad mouth team, even if there are some nice peeps still on it.
( ) Swallow pride, and take the critique.
( ) Stop going to games.
( ) Rename dd, Ray Ray.
( ) Find new team after season.
( ) Post on Heybucket till Sam, Alwaysimprove and Battle agree with me.
( ) Post on Heybucket till Uno goes negative.
( ) Find way out of cornfield.
( ) Remind self to keep in all in perspective, and learn.
( ) Drink till perspective thing seems stupid, and goo back to butthurt.
( ) Blame dd and push her harder. Tell her she is selfish and to do it for me.
( ) Pay top dallor for lessons.
( ) Make sure instructor tells me how awesome and great she is.
( ) Sit in outfield.
( ) Sit in outfield and drink.
( ) Did I say drink???
( )
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