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ASA Gold Qualifier question

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by Daddylawman » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:13 pm

AlwaysImprove wrote:
scott wrote:Sorry to change the subject, but can a 16U team enter a Gold Qualifier?

I think this will impact your eligibility to play 16U qualifiers or 16U nationals.


It does - you can't. Once you play a qualifier you can not move down, nor can anyone on the team, even under the new release rule.
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by MTR » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Daddylawman wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:
scott wrote:Sorry to change the subject, but can a 16U team enter a Gold Qualifier?

I think this will impact your eligibility to play 16U qualifiers or 16U nationals.


It does - you can't. Once you play a qualifier you can not move down, nor can anyone on the team, even under the new release rule.


I don't believe this to be true. Citations from ASA Code would be welcomed.
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by AlwaysImprove » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:18 am

I was reading:
501.C.02 Team Participation. A team may register and participation more than one division of play, but that team is limited to only one classification within a division of Championship play.

106.C.01 Championship Play is a tournament or competition from which the winner or the winner and other selected teams may advance to higher levels of play of this Association (See Article 509, Levels of Championship Play of this Code).

106.C.03 Classification is level of play within in a division.

106.D.02 Division refers to the different types of championship competition conducted by this Association ( See Article 506, Divisions and Classifications of Championship Play Defined of this Code).

509 indicates that Divisions of play are "Girls' Fast Pitch", "Men's Fast Pitch", etc. Classifications for "Girls Fast Pitch" are 18-Under GOLD, Class A: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc. Class B: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc.

But I would defer to anyone from ASA that would say differently.
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by jonriv » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:59 am

AlwaysImprove wrote:I was reading:
501.C.02 Team Participation. A team may register and participation more than one division of play, but that team is limited to only one classification within a division of Championship play.

106.C.01 Championship Play is a tournament or competition from which the winner or the winner and other selected teams may advance to higher levels of play of this Association (See Article 509, Levels of Championship Play of this Code).

106.C.03 Classification is level of play within in a division.

106.D.02 Division refers to the different types of championship competition conducted by this Association ( See Article 506, Divisions and Classifications of Championship Play Defined of this Code).

509 indicates that Divisions of play are "Girls' Fast Pitch", "Men's Fast Pitch", etc. Classifications for "Girls Fast Pitch" are 18-Under GOLD, Class A: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc. Class B: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc.

But I would defer to anyone from ASA that would say differently.


Just asking for clarification- does a qualifier count as championship play?
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by Daddylawman » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:18 am

jonriv wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:I was reading:
501.C.02 Team Participation. A team may register and participation more than one division of play, but that team is limited to only one classification within a division of Championship play.

106.C.01 Championship Play is a tournament or competition from which the winner or the winner and other selected teams may advance to higher levels of play of this Association (See Article 509, Levels of Championship Play of this Code).

106.C.03 Classification is level of play within in a division.

106.D.02 Division refers to the different types of championship competition conducted by this Association ( See Article 506, Divisions and Classifications of Championship Play Defined of this Code).

509 indicates that Divisions of play are "Girls' Fast Pitch", "Men's Fast Pitch", etc. Classifications for "Girls Fast Pitch" are 18-Under GOLD, Class A: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc. Class B: 18-Under, 16-Under, etc.

But I would defer to anyone from ASA that would say differently.


Just asking for clarification- does a qualifier count as championship play?


Absolutely yes
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by Daddylawman » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:30 am

MTR wrote:
Daddylawman wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:
scott wrote:Sorry to change the subject, but can a 16U team enter a Gold Qualifier?

I think this will impact your eligibility to play 16U qualifiers or 16U nationals.


It does - you can't. Once you play a qualifier you can not move down, nor can anyone on the team, even under the new release rule.


I don't believe this to be true. Citations from ASA Code would be welcomed.


Article 503 A.04

In Junior Olympic play there two types of classification,
one type of classification is Gold, Class A and Class B; the other type of
classification is age classification, 18-Under, 16-Under, 14-Under, 12-Under
and 10-Under. Therefore as an example, a player who has competed on a
Junior Olympic Girls’ Fast Pitch 16-Under team is not an eligible pick-up
player for any team below the 16-Under age classification. Another example,
once a player participates on a Class A team, they are not eligible to
participate in Class B even if moving up in the age classification.
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