fish or cut bait time

[Killer Rabbit]

You're right. I didn't mean the post to say that if coaches "played nice" then they would get some benefits (although if some teams believed that and were more tolerable to the blues, than I don't see that as a bad thing) from the umpires. I just thought that with the timing of the request (end of game as opposed to first call of game) and the coaches hopefully coming off as more professional, that the ump would go ahead and talk to the other blue (not asking if he would change his call, just if he would grant the request). It's almost more of a human nature question. I understand that if a blue talks to the other umpire about every call he loses credibility.

[wadeintothem]

Wade,

Always love your posts, especially when I'm guilty off some of the coaching infractions (at least I have been in the past). Printed out your last post and made my catchers, pitchers, and other coaches read it. One question for you, do you give coaches that pick their battles more weight when they question a call or ruling? Example, let's say that our team has been respectful and not questioning borderline calls (this is how everyone should be anyways) throughout the game. It's near the end of the game and a borderline call goes against us. Only this time we ask you for help from the other blue. Do you ask for help, or stick to your guns. I know that every situation is different, I'm just talking in general. Thanks

He's not going to admit to that...not if he wants to retain any credibility.

Umpires are human, but if they want to keep their holy status they have to pretend to be superhuman. And, to be sure, putting up with the garbage they put up with and yet still remaining perfectly impartial is superhuman. I'm guessing few can.

I always follow the same guidelines as to when I will go for help:
1) Was there a legit possibility I missed something (ie coach asking pulled foot etc)
2) Did I get screened or blocked, if I know couldnt see it.. I would go for help.
3) Something kooky went one where I wouldnt mind the input of another set of eyes.

If its just a bang-bang and you want a 2nd chance it, its not happening.

If a coach was out of hand, he wouldnt be around at the end of the game, so I wouldnt think that should affect a last minute decision on going for help. The same guidelines would apply.

[Killer Rabbit]

Thanks Wade. I appreciate the answer.

[Skarp]

I always follow the same guidelines as to when I will go for help:
1) Was there a legit possibility I missed something (ie coach asking pulled foot etc)
2) Did I get screened or blocked, if I know couldnt see it.. I would go for help.
3) Something kooky went one where I wouldnt mind the input of another set of eyes.

If its just a bang-bang and you want a 2nd chance it, its not happening.

If a coach was out of hand, he wouldnt be around at the end of the game, so I wouldnt think that should affect a last minute decision on going for help. The same guidelines would apply.

Survey says...right answer. His job is to play it straight regardless of his personal feelings about the participants.

[Kurt]

Re: fish or cut bait time
And well.. when you are done with all that chest puff stuff... shut up and eat your hot dog and let the coach coach.

Last week, I heard a stand-daddy-wannabe-coach EVERY PITCH yell at his doubtless D1 bound short stop "stop looking at the pitch call, you dont need to know the pitch".

That is stupid. Of course they need to know what pitch is called. Defensive schemes are based on what pitch is being call you moron. Who takes throws, who is cheating where... But you obviously dont know squat you 4.25 per gallon driving 100's of miles mope. Thankfully the D1 bound 18G DD ignores your dumbass.

Oh, hey I have an I idea for you Mr. and Mrs Strawhat and flipflops. Dont hurt your daughter to heckle the umpire.

BRAVO Wade! Good stuff indeed.
Share with us some of your thoughts/insight on snackbar food...field maintenance, or lack thereof. Coaches calling pitches outside the dugout?
More Wade is good!