THE LIST 14u Qualified Teams for ASA Nationals, Moline, IL

[Joe]

30 teams from the bankrupt state of California? WTF!!!??? Holy Lindsey Lohan!!! I mean... I know they invented fastpitch... but 30 teams? ... and the next closest is 10 teams out of that powerhouse that brought us Jimmy Carter? Is ASA bending over...taking a cue from the bath houses of San Fran... grabbing the ankles...laying the ground work for a battle...in an effort to sway teams of the future away from Premier...or is Obama's education stumuli/immigration plan include rounding up all the muchachas under age 18...provide them with free healthcare, free education...and a bat, ball, and glove???

Joe,

Of the CA berths, 13 are from SoCal State Championship. While that may seem like a lot, consider what would happen if they broke up SoCal ASA and divided into Metros, as they do in many parts of the country, it would look like something like this, based on registered teams / players:

San Diego North Metro
San Deigo South Metro
San Diego Coast Metro
Orange County South Metro
Orange County North Metro
Orange County East Metro
Orange County Beach Cities Metro
Corona Metro (so many great teams, they'd probably get 2 berths)
Riverside County East Metro
Riverside County West Metro
Palm Springs / Desert Metro
Lancaster / Palmdale Metro
LA Harbor Metro (San Pedro, Long Beach, etc)
LA East Metro (Chino, etc)
LA Central Metro (Whittier, Downey, Lakewood, Cerritos, etc)
LA Beach Cities / Westside (Torrance, Santa Monica, W. LA, etc)
West San Fernando Valley Metro
East San Fernando Valley Metro
Beyond the Valley Metro (Moorpark, Simi, Thousand Oaks, Agoura, etc)
Ventura / Oxnard Metro

And I may have missed one or two entire areas.

So 13 from SoCal, compared to 20+ from various Metros... not so many, really.

PS. Don't sell short that "powerhouse that gave us Jimmy Carter"... while they may not breed great peanut-farming presidents, they sure field some awesome fastpitch teams.

Ummmm...okay. I'd still like to see the formula ASA uses to kiss the almighty ass of California softball. It seems to me there's an inordinate amount of gerrymandering when it comes to berths, either Metros or State qualified. I would bet a peso or two that the plan 'might' be to appease the home base before this Premier thingy gets too popular....and cuts into a bigger piece of the pie.

I'm just wondering and worried.. about how much room there'll be for all those teams coming in from Alaska...or the great state of Baja California Norte or Nuevo Leon?

[SoCalFP]

Joe, all you have to do is check the ASA Code on how berths are awarded. Most of them are based on the number of teams registered with the association and/or region. So Cal (if beleive) is the largest association in ASA in terms of JO teams, and (I believe) that the Pacific Coast Region is the largest region in ASA. Hence the greater number of teams.

[anonlooker]

Okay, updated through July 8. Thanks to all for the input.

[CHEAGLES97]

Georgia Impact Owens got their berth at Georgia ASA state this past weekend.

[Blades356mm]

Oregon Blaze Wood 95 got berth winning Oregon state today. DD scored only run in a great game.. Gooooo BLAZE!!!

And yes we're going.

[PDad]

Moline website shows a lot more teams have registered (94). Here are the ones not on THE LIST:

California:
Central Cal Dirt Dogs (passed down from Bakersfield Rebels 96?)

Illinois:
BNGSA Angels
Cigs Rebels Gold
Heartland Havoc 95
Heartland Havoc 96
Milan Aces
St Louis Chaos 95
St. Louis Fusion 96
Starved Rock Bandits

Missouri:
Diamond Skilz
KC Force
Missouri Pride
Originals

Nebraska:
Frozen Ropes
Omaha Quakes

New York:
Black Widows

Texas:
Ft Worth Batbusters
TX Elite - Kuss
TX Showtime

[CHEAGLES97]

Georgia Impact-Medlam and Atlanta Vipers-Jarvis won berth in Tennessee this weekend.

[AlwaysImprove]

ASA gives associations with more than 999 teams registered one additional berth per 500 players registered. Which is not really that many berths. The number of berths that SoCal and Region 14 is voted on at the annual meeting. The number of berths going to CA was up before Premier happened.

The number of SoCal teams that were traveling pretty big distances to compete for At Large berths was way up, until they allocated more berths to CA.

Alaska has a geographic hardship berth. All they have to do is get a team together, and they get a berth to Nationals.

I wish ASA were paying attention to what is going on at Premier. They seem to be somewhat ignoring it or antagonized by it.

I doubt extra berths to SoCal would solve any of the teams concerns with ASA.

[snackbar]

30 teams from the bankrupt state of California? WTF!!!??? Holy Lindsey Lohan!!! I mean... I know they invented fastpitch... but 30 teams? ... and the next closest is 10 teams out of that powerhouse that brought us Jimmy Carter? Is ASA bending over...taking a cue from the bath houses of San Fran... grabbing the ankles...laying the ground work for a battle...in an effort to sway teams of the future away from Premier...or is Obama's education stumuli/immigration plan include rounding up all the muchachas under age 18...provide them with free healthcare, free education...and a bat, ball, and glove???

I guess math wasn't your favorite subject in school COWBOY.....I guess roping calves was much easier than counting too 5 on your little fingers as a child . It's simple math we had 88 teams at our SoCal state tournament. How many did you have? 13 berths were given, 13 Divided by 88 is 15% percent. Now let's look at Arizona 8 teams at there state tournament they got two berths that's 25%. Houston 1 out of 4 that's 25% etc etc get it??? Shut your pie hole first, second get a decent education, third tell all your Wrangler wearing partners to start some teams and maybe you might earn more berths!!!!!

PS: Technically we should of had 22 berths instead of 13 at SoCal state alone if we had 25%

[asmackdaddy]

30 teams from the bankrupt state of California? WTF!!!??? Holy Lindsey Lohan!!! I mean... I know they invented fastpitch... but 30 teams? ... and the next closest is 10 teams out of that powerhouse that brought us Jimmy Carter? Is ASA bending over...taking a cue from the bath houses of San Fran... grabbing the ankles...laying the ground work for a battle...in an effort to sway teams of the future away from Premier...or is Obama's education stumuli/immigration plan include rounding up all the muchachas under age 18...provide them with free healthcare, free education...and a bat, ball, and glove???

I guess math wasn't your favorite subject in school COWBOY.....I guess roping calves was much easier than counting too 5 on your little fingers as a child . It's simple math we had 88 teams at our SoCal state tournament. How many did you have? 13 berths were given, 13 Divided by 88 is 15% percent. Now let's look at Arizona 8 teams at there state tournament they got two berths that's 25%. Houston 1 out of 4 that's 25% etc etc get it??? Shut your pie hole first, second get a decent education, third tell all your Wrangler wearing partners to start some teams and maybe you might earn more berths!!!!!

PS: Technically we should of had 22 berths instead of 13 at SoCal state alone if we had 25%

Houston Metro had 13 Teams in the bracket