WHAT DOES IT TAKE?

[outtahere]

What DOES it take to become a Super Org?
idea:
Coaches? - How do you get the "BEST" of the best under one umbrella? (with out an ego fight?)

Athletes? - Who is the "BEST" and finding/identifying these athletes and "recruiting" them so they stay in the local community?

Organizational structure? What is the "BEST" structure: independent? Unified? Combination?

Facilities? - How critical is this to being the "BEST?

Please list with reasons and order of importance, can you also note if you are a coach, parent or "other - what is your role"

[AlwaysImprove]

Lie to parents until they commit to your team. Then get those parents to lie to other parents. Then find a way to go deep at PGF at some age level. Then toot toot your horn.

Facilities depend on where you live. I have never heard a number of Socal teams mention much about their facilities.

[Pale Rider]

I look at that ...like this...My Dad and I , when I was young...back in the 1800's I guess...drove by a Ferrari place almost every day where he lived in Ft Lauderdale...They had a shiny red one out front...I said Dad, lets stop and ask what it costs!...He said, "if you have to ask, you cant afford it"...

If you have to ask, you'll never achieve it

[PDad]

What DOES it take to become a Super Org?

What is the criteria for being a Super Org? Size, name recognition, competitive success, recruiting or what?

The "best" coaches and orgs draw the best athletes - along with some others that would be better off on another team.

1. Coaches? - How do you get the "BEST" of the best under one umbrella? (with out an ego fight?)
Get the ones that are either unaffiliated or unhappy with their current org.

2. Organizational structure? What is the "BEST" structure: independent? Unified? Combination?
It's a combination - unified in its development of coaches and players, coordinated so teams help each other out for recruiting and still allow some autonomy for teams. Regardless, players should have last word on their team in org.

3. Athletes? - Who is the "BEST" and finding/identifying these athletes and "recruiting" them so they stay in the local community?
This is 2 different questions. Some people at the younger ages find them before they go travel. Most coaches recognize and/or hear about elite players once they're playing travel. Recruiting them is a combination of offering a better opportunity and/or being a better sales closer.

4. Facilities? - How critical is this to being the "BEST?
Teams need reliable and affordable places to practice regularly. Avoid orgs that run teams to pump up their facility.

[Pale Rider]

One more...define 'best'

[ontheblack]

It takes
1. time
2. a history of success
3. one person who is respected (at least initially) and completely committed to the org
4. luck

I do not believe that you can simply start today and map out a way to become the BBs or FCs tomorrow, nest week, next month or next year.

[jonriv]

It takes
1. time
2. a history of success
3. one person who is respected (at least initially) and completely committed to the org
4. luck

I do not believe that you can simply start today and map out a way to become the BBs or FCs tomorrow, nest week, next month or next year.

Seems to say it all

[Fastpitch4Life]

It takes
1. time
2. a history of success
3. one person who is respected (at least initially) and completely committed to the org
4. luck

I do not believe that you can simply start today and map out a way to become the BBs or FCs tomorrow, nest week, next month or next year.

In a nutshell. I would assume that "a history of success" includes development of relationships with college coaches enabling the successful recruiting process of student athletes.

[ontheblack]

It takes
1. time
2. a history of success
3. one person who is respected (at least initially) and completely committed to the org
4. luck

I do not believe that you can simply start today and map out a way to become the BBs or FCs tomorrow, nest week, next month or next year.

In a nutshell. I would assume that "a history of success" includes development of relationships with college coaches and enabling the successful recruiting process of student athletes.

Absolutely. I believe that is what has defined Rico and Haning. Here is an excerpt From the OCBB site on Haning that succinctly defines their history of success (I added the bold):

He has Coached the OC Batbusters since 1983 and as of the year 2012 has compiled a total of eight “18U National Championships”. During that time every player graduating from 18U has received a scholarship offer. These players include over 240 Scholarship Athletes the likes of which more than 150 have become NCAA All-Americans!

[Fastpitch4Life]

It takes
1. time
2. a history of success
3. one person who is respected (at least initially) and completely committed to the org
4. luck

I do not believe that you can simply start today and map out a way to become the BBs or FCs tomorrow, nest week, next month or next year.

In a nutshell. I would assume that "a history of success" includes development of relationships with college coaches and enabling the successful recruiting process of student athletes.

Absolutely. I believe that is what has defined Rico and Haning. Here is an excerpt From the OCBB site on Haning that succinctly defines their history of success (I added the bold):

He has Coached the OC Batbusters since 1983 and as of the year 2012 has compiled a total of eight “18U National Championships”. During that time every player graduating from 18U has received a scholarship offer. These players include over 240 Scholarship Athletes the likes of which more than 150 have become NCAA All-Americans!

That's impressive!