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by Cannonball » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:00 pm

DonnieS wrote:>> She is just a girl that loves playing. <<

If she is having fun, doesnt get any better.


>> She does have a lot of movement on her pitches. Thus, she walks a lot. <<

Dont understand that comment.

I would understand "She does have a lot of movement on her pitches but she walks a lot." or
"She does have a lot of movement on her pitches and she walks a lot." but saying or implying that movement leads to walks is not true.


Donny, I have coached in this area for a couple of decades. Therefore, I know just about every umpire. After games, such as last night, they come up to me and comment on her. A common theme seems to be that they suggest that it is hard to stay with her ball because it moves so much. Of course, she has thrown into a pretty steady wind these last few games. Last night's game was the calmest with a wind blowing straight out to center at abou 14 mph. I know also that the catcher complains that when my dd throws, she gets "catcher's thumb." It doesn't help in her case that about half of her fastballs look more like peel drops. Of course that will eventually be a good thing when she can control that more. At this point, my dd is a young lady that had gotten by with speed but is now facing a lot older girls. She is a raw as an uncooked potato. Like I said, someday she may turn into a pitcher. BTW, up to date stats are that she walks 5 per game, strikes out 8 per game and now has an ERA of .80. She surrendered 3 hits last night and none the game before.
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by DonnieS » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:24 pm

I dont have by game - I have by inning and by at-bats.

In these 72 innings that I have stats for - 46 innings are against gold teams, 23 innings were against 14u, and the rest were 18a teams, she faced 278 at bats, gave up 7 walks, had 57 Ks, had 49 hits and gave up 22 runs. She averages 3.86 at bats per inning, the stat that I do watch, the Hits+BB/AB is .2014 - so 20% of the batters she faces get on base by a hit or a walk. 20% of the batters she faces, she strikes out. 2.5% of the batters she faces get a walk. 8% of the batters she faces, scores a run. I dont know how these stats measure up, but to me they were interesting stats.
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by Cannonball » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:47 pm

Donnie, very impressive! Obviously, our two aren't in the same league. Congrats on your dd doing so well.
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by DonnieS » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:43 pm

>> Congrats on your dd doing so well. <<

Thanks - I am trying to understand the stats, I am not a stats reader at all. Another pitcher on our team gives up more walks, but my kid gives up more hits and the other kids BB+Hits/AB ratio is higher than my kid - but I have been thinking about tracking slugging + bb /AB, to try to give me another measurement.
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by Brooke's Dad » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:05 am

Hey Brooke's Dad, did your DD not play this past weekend at BBUSA? We played you guys but I didn't see Brooke.



She was only able to be there Sunday - during that UNREAL windstorm!! She got 3 games in with the Peppers Sunday - they made it to the 'Ship but lost to the SK Tazers.

What team does your DD play for?

Friday night she was playing vs College Park and all day Saturday she was at The Woodlands HS playing in an all day / one day tournament. She played a couple of really good (Bellaire / Magnolia West) and really a few bad teams Saturday.
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by Lefty's Dad » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:46 am

Brooke's Dad wrote:
Hey Brooke's Dad, did your DD not play this past weekend at BBUSA? We played you guys but I didn't see Brooke.



She was only able to be there Sunday - during that UNREAL windstorm!! She got 3 games in with the Peppers Sunday - they made it to the 'Ship but lost to the SK Tazers.

What team does your DD play for?

Friday night she was playing vs College Park and all day Saturday she was at The Woodlands HS playing in an all day / one day tournament. She played a couple of really good (Bellaire / Magnolia West) and really a few bad teams Saturday.



DD plays for the Jets but used to play for Magic 94 which is where I used to see Brooke all the time. She's an awesome SS, I just love to watch her play. You guys dropped us down on Saturday night (our first bracket game)and we never really recovered so we didn't get to see y'all again. We got eliminated by YO.
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