Verbals

[Lunatic Fringe]

My kid told my wife and I that she wants a job like they have on show CSI.

I said, "OK, you want to be an analyst. That will take a degree and post grad study in some sort of science major." She said, "Eww, I hate science". So I said, "Ok so you want to be a cop/detective" and she said, "No way do I want to be a cop". At this point we asked her what role on CSI did she have in mind and she said, "I want to be the one who puts the gun in the bag" and I said, "Oh, you want to be an actor" at which point she blurted out in frustration that she does not want to be an actor.

So since she likes to argue, she settled on pre law until she grows up some more and gets a clue. The only thing she knows for sure is that she wants to play collegiate softball (which could change as others have pointed out).

[Fuddrules]

You guys may want to bone up a little on your college violation cases.

Regarding Boise Football
The secondary violations involving the football program, which were initially found by BSU’s compliance staff and self-reported to the NCAA, stem from 63 incoming players receiving impermissible benefits that totaled just over $4,900. The benefits involved, the school stated in its official response to the NCAA inquiry this past May, “impermissible housing, transportation or meals, where an incoming student-athlete was provided a place to sleep (often on a couch or floor), a car ride or was provided free food by an existing student-athlete.”

Nothing too bad by Boise football but they only lost 4% of the football scholarships for 3 years.

For Boise Tennis/Track:
•A one-year ban on postseason play following the 2011-12 women’s tennis season
•Four-year show-cause order for the former women’s tennis head coach from Sept. 13, 2011, through Sept. 12, 2015. The public report further details these conditions.
•Two-year show-cause order for the former assistant track coach. The public report details these conditions.
•Reduction of men’s and women’s track and field scholarships by 1.5 equivalencies from the average annual amount awarded the past four years during the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years (self-imposed by the university).
•Reduction of women’s tennis scholarships from eight to five during the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years (self-imposed by the university).
•Reduction of official recruiting visits for men’s tennis, men’s track and field and cross country, and women’s track and field and cross country (self-imposed by the university).
•Reduction in number of recruiters permitted to recruit off-campus for six months during the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years for men’s and women’s track and field and cross country (self-imposed by the university).
•Two-year prohibition in the recruitment of international prospective student-athletes for men’s and women’s cross country and track and field and women’s tennis (men’s and women’s cross country and track and field self-imposed by the university).
•The institution must pay a $5,000 penalty as a result of a student-athlete’s ineligible participation (self-imposed by the university).
•Vacation of all wins in which a particular women’s tennis student-athlete participated in during the 2008-09 season, including any postseason competition, and the student-athletes individual records

[Fredegar]

Fudd, a poster asked when other sports like Softball caused penalties for a Football team.

Boise Football lost scholarships for guys sleeping on couches, getting picked up at the airport, and being guest-passed into cafeterias. Seriously? Stuff like that, and far worse at some schools, are happening at many major US campuses. And no one's losing scholarships over it.

Yes, Tennis/Track had serious violations and were punished. But the NCAA dragged the Football team into it to punish the athletic program where they'd feel it most. It's difficult to believe that anything would have happened to Football if Tennis/Track didn't screw up.

(My apologies for continuing this portion of the thread that has nothing to do with "Verbals" and precious little to do with Softball. Clearly, it's nothing more than a veiled attempt to increase my post count. )

[CULater]

Fudd, a poster asked when other sports like Softball caused penalties for a Football team.

Boise Football lost scholarships for guys sleeping on couches, getting picked up at the airport, and being guest-passed into cafeterias. Seriously? Stuff like that, and far worse at some schools, are happening at many major US campuses. And no one's losing scholarships over it.

Yes, Tennis/Track had serious violations and were punished. But the NCAA dragged the Football team into it to punish the athletic program where they'd feel it most. It's difficult to believe that anything would have happened to Football if Tennis/Track didn't screw up.

(My apologies for continuing this portion of the thread that has nothing to do with "Verbals" and precious little to do with Softball. Clearly, it's nothing more than a veiled attempt to increase my post count. )

First the dude said cost football teams bowl games. Even this most blatant violation by the tennis team did not cost Boise St bowl games. Secondly, the football violations were self reported as seen in the bolded portion below, when you self report football violations, AND you have a rogue tennis coach there is the appearance of lack of institutional control.

In both of the examples provided, there were football players involved with wrong doing, it wasn't just the tennis team, or just the golf or softball team that caused the penalties to the football team.

Regarding Boise Football
The secondary violations involving the football program, which were initially found by BSU’s compliance staff and self-reported to the NCAA, stem from 63 incoming players receiving impermissible benefits that totaled just over $4,900. The benefits involved, the school stated in its official response to the NCAA inquiry this past May, “impermissible housing, transportation or meals, where an incoming student-athlete was provided a place to sleep (often on a couch or floor), a car ride or was provided free food by an existing student-athlete.”

[CULater]

I will leave you with this and say nothing more on the matter

If you tell your kids to keep their rooms clean, then one day you walk upstairs and your daughter's room isn't suitable for pigs to reside and your son's room is not quite as bad, but clearly not clean.....it isn't your daughter's fault that your son's room isn't cleaned up like you asked now is it?

[ECBulletsWalters]

A Scholarship to play the game in College is NOT an entitlement. It has to be earned every year. Same with a Verbal. It is made in Good Faith by both parties and should carry HIGH expectations. Go to www.ECBullets.org and click on the Scholarship News link - ALL 250+ players verbaled before they signed. Check it out at www.ECBullets.org, watch the video.