Hinky wrote:Sam wrote:Battle,
We were asking for equal treatment and we were asking that a National tournament be held in California every once in a while. We were sending 20+ teams to the National tournaments and never getting a National tournament in our state.....save for 10U in Moreno Valley in 2000. We were asking that ASA grant berths for California that were commensurate with our participation in their organization. They created a market for PGF. They were warned repeatedly and they snubbed their noses. Now they went from the elite softball organization to 2nd or 3rd place behind PGF. ASA is built for slowpitch....they could give a $hit about girls softball. PGF exists SOLELY for girls softball.
OBTW: The host cities offered berths to their local teams in ASA. they didn't have to qualify.
what was the reason given from ASA not wanting to do National tournaments in California?
seems rational and smart. There could have been a tournament here say every four years and grown the market for themselves. Plus give teams opportunity to travel and see other states. So not everybody have to travel every year or at least as far.
Imo, can see what's happening in the direction of pgf. Compared to the amount of teams in other national venues, it really isn't that large of a national tournament. just saying when we look at how many top teams there actually are in softball.
seems there are great competitive showcasing tournaments where people are guaranteed games and the competition is just as good. those alternatives. Or something
seem to limit any growing participation at pgf.
ASA always claimed that the California cities were outbid by other cities around the country......so the National tournaments went to Midland TX, Broken Arrow OK, Johnson City TN......and other vacation hotspots.