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PAC-12 Adopts Reform Package

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by tbjd33 » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:42 am

tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:This already in place at other Major conferences. For sure Big 12, Big 12 and SEC. I'm surprised it took this long for the Pac.

I call BS - show some proof. Make sure it's for all athletes, not just some.

BTW, PAC-12 passed this Oct 27.


#1
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 26123.html


#2 Big Ten
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... _secu.html


#3 ACC
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _ncaa.html


#4 First SEC school - South Carolina. During recruiting I asked two SEC schools this question. Both said its only a matter of time when the conference will pass the rule just as the other majors.

http://www.examiner.com/article/four-ye ... mprovement

Need any more? Just google it...

Merry Christmas!
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by AlwaysImprove » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:07 pm

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AlwaysImprove wrote:The liberal transfer rules will help push the age down in recruiting. All around in current times this just seems a move in the right direction. Kids were much more aggressive about looking outside the conference for a new home. This allows those kids to consider in conference schools.

It certainly helps, although intra-PAC transfers still have to sit a year.

Is anyone in Pac 12 holding out anymore? Seems they all now release.
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by PDad » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:31 am

AlwaysImprove wrote:
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AlwaysImprove wrote:The liberal transfer rules will help push the age down in recruiting. All around in current times this just seems a move in the right direction. Kids were much more aggressive about looking outside the conference for a new home. This allows those kids to consider in conference schools.

It certainly helps, although intra-PAC transfers still have to sit a year.

Is anyone in Pac 12 holding out anymore? Seems they all now release.

PAC-12 has intra-conference transfer rules (ER 4-3-b) that explicitly override the NCAA's waivers/exceptions with their own more limited set and require a petition to the Conference beyond that. Hard to know whether recent transfers were exempted or had their petition granted.

Point taken though, I updated my post to "MAY still have to sit a year".
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by PDad » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:44 am

tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:This already in place at other Major conferences. For sure Big 12, Big 12 and SEC. I'm surprised it took this long for the Pac.

I call BS - show some proof. Make sure it's for all athletes, not just some.

BTW, PAC-12 passed this Oct 27.

#1
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 26123.html

#2 Big Ten
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... _secu.html

#3 ACC
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _ncaa.html

#4 First SEC school - South Carolina. During recruiting I asked two SEC schools this question. Both said its only a matter of time when the conference will pass the rule just as the other majors.

http://www.examiner.com/article/four-ye ... mprovement

Need any more? Just google it...

Merry Christmas!

You failed to show any conference that did it before PAC-12.
#1 Big 12 passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#2 Big Ten? Only tOSU and only for football.
#3 ACC passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#4 SEC? Only USC and only for some sports (i.e. headcount).
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by tbjd33 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:53 pm

PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:This already in place at other Major conferences. For sure Big 12, Big 12 and SEC. I'm surprised it took this long for the Pac.

I call BS - show some proof. Make sure it's for all athletes, not just some.

BTW, PAC-12 passed this Oct 27.

#1
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 26123.html

#2 Big Ten
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... _secu.html

#3 ACC
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _ncaa.html

#4 First SEC school - South Carolina. During recruiting I asked two SEC schools this question. Both said its only a matter of time when the conference will pass the rule just as the other majors.

http://www.examiner.com/article/four-ye ... mprovement

Need any more? Just google it...

Merry Christmas!

You failed to show any conference that did it before PAC-12.
#1 Big 12 passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#2 Big Ten? Only tOSU and only for football.
#3 ACC passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#4 SEC? Only USC and only for some sports (i.e. headcount).


Never said they did it before. It's not a guarantee of 100% for 4 years. It's clear they all state it's for all sports and it's for the amount the letter of intent is signed for. They can't take away what a Student-Athlete was given day 1 so long as they are in good standing. That's pretty simple right!
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by PDad » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:44 pm

Spazsdad wrote:I know that the B1G started offering full term schokarships two years ago in softball for sure and I thought it was all sports.

When multi-year deals passed 2-3 years ago, they were clearly going to be selective in handing them out - i.e. they didn't offer them to everyone. PAC-12 is ALL offers next year for 2016s.
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by PDad » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:09 pm

tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:This already in place at other Major conferences. For sure Big 12, Big 12 and SEC. I'm surprised it took this long for the Pac.

I call BS - show some proof. Make sure it's for all athletes, not just some.

BTW, PAC-12 passed this Oct 27.

#1
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 26123.html
#2 Big Ten
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... _secu.html
#3 ACC
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _ncaa.html
#4 First SEC school - South Carolina. During recruiting I asked two SEC schools this question. Both said its only a matter of time when the conference will pass the rule just as the other majors.
http://www.examiner.com/article/four-ye ... mprovement

You failed to show any conference that did it before PAC-12.
#1 Big 12 passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#2 Big Ten? Only tOSU and only for football.
#3 ACC passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#4 SEC? Only USC and only for some sports (i.e. headcount).

Never said they did it before.

LOL - you said it in your first post.

It's clear they all state it's for all sports ..

BS. Two did and two did not (i.e. #2 and #4 in my previous post).
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by tbjd33 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:46 pm

PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:
PDad wrote:
tbjd33 wrote:This already in place at other Major conferences. For sure Big 12, Big 12 and SEC. I'm surprised it took this long for the Pac.

I call BS - show some proof. Make sure it's for all athletes, not just some.

BTW, PAC-12 passed this Oct 27.

#1
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 26123.html
#2 Big Ten
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... _secu.html
#3 ACC
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/in ... _ncaa.html
#4 First SEC school - South Carolina. During recruiting I asked two SEC schools this question. Both said its only a matter of time when the conference will pass the rule just as the other majors.
http://www.examiner.com/article/four-ye ... mprovement

You failed to show any conference that did it before PAC-12.
#1 Big 12 passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#2 Big Ten? Only tOSU and only for football.
#3 ACC passed theirs Dec 1, after PAC-12.
#4 SEC? Only USC and only for some sports (i.e. headcount).

Never said they did it before.

LOL - you said it in your first post.

It's clear they all state it's for all sports ..

BS. Two did and two did not (i.e. #2 and #4 in my previous post).


Huh... Feels like 5th grade right now. Whatever.

Regardless of when these rules were passed or who passed them first. This is a relief for student athletes. Pressure is on to perform as always but this is definitely a good thing and will be the norm going forward.
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