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by chromo » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:25 pm

How many players on those teams were already verballed? How many as a specific result of playing in the PGF tournament who didn't already get signed for a college athletic SCHOLARSHIP got signed and scholarshipped as a result of playing in this championship? Put the numbers out. I am all for PFG and all for the high level of play and all for having the best p;layers and teams who mostly are from the West Coast not have to travel to the end of summer event. And all for most of the best of the rest of the USA softball teams getting to go to California to determine the champions, rather than the southeast and desert places with 120 degree weather and no other reason to go to those places except for a funeral, But now you can't get players unless you qualify for PGF, you have to travel like ten years ago for ASA, you have to pay thousands more to do this, 18u which formerly was good for players who just LIKED TO PLAY SOFTBALL, 16u except for Myers was ignored, 14u was the steppingstone to 18u Gold, and so now that 2014 is over put the facts out. We don't know. Softball is evolving, and pretty soon, like beach volleyball in the 70's, the pro leagues will grow much bigger and lots of girls can make a living for a while as a pro. . But there are still a majority of softball players not yet in college who like to play fastpitch softball because it is A LOT OF FUN. Who don't have a thought of playing in college. Who are successful because they compete against other teams better than them. Many who want to get better just for their high school experience. I have no issue with PGF success, except that from my perspective, listen to The Who, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, we won't get fooled again. So, put out the numbers. How many players get signed from the time the PFG tournament started until now as a direct result of being in the event? Does it work, or is it an illusion? I hope the facts show it is an improvement over ASA 10 years ago.
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by progapanda » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:52 pm

chromo wrote:How many players on those teams were already verballed? How many as a specific result of playing in the PGF tournament who didn't already get signed for a college athletic SCHOLARSHIP got signed and scholarshipped as a result of playing in this championship? Put the numbers out. I am all for PFG and all for the high level of play and all for having the best p;layers and teams who mostly are from the West Coast not have to travel to the end of summer event. And all for most of the best of the rest of the USA softball teams getting to go to California to determine the champions, rather than the southeast and desert places with 120 degree weather and no other reason to go to those places except for a funeral, But now you can't get players unless you qualify for PGF, you have to travel like ten years ago for ASA, you have to pay thousands more to do this, 18u which formerly was good for players who just LIKED TO PLAY SOFTBALL, 16u except for Myers was ignored, 14u was the steppingstone to 18u Gold, and so now that 2014 is over put the facts out. We don't know. Softball is evolving, and pretty soon, like beach volleyball in the 70's, the pro leagues will grow much bigger and lots of girls can make a living for a while as a pro. . But there are still a majority of softball players not yet in college who like to play fastpitch softball because it is A LOT OF FUN. Who don't have a thought of playing in college. Who are successful because they compete against other teams better than them. Many who want to get better just for their high school experience. I have no issue with PGF success, except that from my perspective, listen to The Who, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, we won't get fooled again. So, put out the numbers. How many players get signed from the time the PFG tournament started until now as a direct result of being in the event? Does it work, or is it an illusion? I hope the facts show it is an improvement over ASA 10 years ago.



You can do that on your own by visiting the teams website or PGF roster and googling the players names to find out where they are going. Don't be lazy. Welfare does not apply to softball.
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by tbjd33 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:57 pm

PGF isn't about getting signed... It's about one week the best teams battle for the title. Now when the best are in one spot you will have a ton of college interest.

I don't think we played a game with less the 25 colleges watching the entire game and I tell you we had a ton of feedback.
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by Coachred » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:07 pm

chromo wrote:How many players on those teams were already verballed? How many as a specific result of playing in the PGF tournament who didn't already get signed for a college athletic SCHOLARSHIP got signed and scholarshipped as a result of playing in this championship? Put the numbers out. I am all for PFG and all for the high level of play and all for having the best p;layers and teams who mostly are from the West Coast not have to travel to the end of summer event. And all for most of the best of the rest of the USA softball teams getting to go to California to determine the champions, rather than the southeast and desert places with 120 degree weather and no other reason to go to those places except for a funeral, But now you can't get players unless you qualify for PGF, you have to travel like ten years ago for ASA, you have to pay thousands more to do this, 18u which formerly was good for players who just LIKED TO PLAY SOFTBALL, 16u except for Myers was ignored, 14u was the steppingstone to 18u Gold, and so now that 2014 is over put the facts out. We don't know. Softball is evolving, and pretty soon, like beach volleyball in the 70's, the pro leagues will grow much bigger and lots of girls can make a living for a while as a pro. . But there are still a majority of softball players not yet in college who like to play fastpitch softball because it is A LOT OF FUN. Who don't have a thought of playing in college. Who are successful because they compete against other teams better than them. Many who want to get better just for their high school experience. I have no issue with PGF success, except that from my perspective, listen to The Who, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, we won't get fooled again. So, put out the numbers. How many players get signed from the time the PFG tournament started until now as a direct result of being in the event? Does it work, or is it an illusion? I hope the facts show it is an improvement over ASA 10 years ago.



WTF.... Did this guy just say????
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by Hit&Run » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 am

Congrats to all the teams that competed this year. You can tell by the list who is going to be strong next year and the years to come. You can see what orgs are getting their kids ready for the next level and those who will have to recruit outside help......
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by artomatic » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:02 am

chromo you really should put a breathalizer on your computer that stops you from drunk typing.
And once again, too late to delete since your ramblings have been captured by the quote button.
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by AvgMoe » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:29 am

Hit&Run wrote:Congrats to all the teams that competed this year. You can tell by the list who is going to be strong next year and the years to come. You can see what orgs are getting their kids ready for the next level and those who will have to recruit outside help......


It would be nice to know how many teams had to add girls to help them win.
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by Hit&Run » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:04 pm

AvgMoe wrote:
Hit&Run wrote:Congrats to all the teams that competed this year. You can tell by the list who is going to be strong next year and the years to come. You can see what orgs are getting their kids ready for the next level and those who will have to recruit outside help......


It would be nice to know how many teams had to add girls to help them win.


I would say probably like 70% of them.....
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by Safebyahare » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:50 pm

artomatic wrote:chromo you really should put a breathalizer on your computer that stops you from drunk typing.
And once again, too late to delete since your ramblings have been captured by the quote button.

This is why I generally wait till late night to post, and delete at 6am.
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by Dugout Dad » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:06 pm

chromo wrote:How many players on those teams were already verballed? How many as a specific result of playing in the PGF tournament who didn't already get signed for a college athletic SCHOLARSHIP got signed and scholarshipped as a result of playing in this championship? Put the numbers out. I am all for PFG and all for the high level of play and all for having the best p;layers and teams who mostly are from the West Coast not have to travel to the end of summer event. And all for most of the best of the rest of the USA softball teams getting to go to California to determine the champions, rather than the southeast and desert places with 120 degree weather and no other reason to go to those places except for a funeral, But now you can't get players unless you qualify for PGF, you have to travel like ten years ago for ASA, you have to pay thousands more to do this, 18u which formerly was good for players who just LIKED TO PLAY SOFTBALL, 16u except for Myers was ignored, 14u was the steppingstone to 18u Gold, and so now that 2014 is over put the facts out. We don't know. Softball is evolving, and pretty soon, like beach volleyball in the 70's, the pro leagues will grow much bigger and lots of girls can make a living for a while as a pro. . But there are still a majority of softball players not yet in college who like to play fastpitch softball because it is A LOT OF FUN. Who don't have a thought of playing in college. Who are successful because they compete against other teams better than them. Many who want to get better just for their high school experience. I have no issue with PGF success, except that from my perspective, listen to The Who, meet the new boss, same as the old boss, we won't get fooled again. So, put out the numbers. How many players get signed from the time the PFG tournament started until now as a direct result of being in the event? Does it work, or is it an illusion? I hope the facts show it is an improvement over ASA 10 years ago.

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