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12U Nor Cal Teams
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I have said it before and I'll say it again: if it weren't for daddy ball, there would be no youth sports.
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
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CheckWriter - Premium Member
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How about.. if it weren't for parents/grandparents/youth supporters there wouldn't be youth sports! Does anybody know the meaning of "Daddy ball"?? "Daddy ball" or "Mommy ball" has had a negative impact on this sport. It has diluted the talent and there is no significant difference between A ball and B ball anymore.
Sorry parents if your kid is not good enough to play on a team, the message is "GET BETTER" NOT "MAKE YOUR OWN TEAM".
RESPECT THE GAME
Sorry parents if your kid is not good enough to play on a team, the message is "GET BETTER" NOT "MAKE YOUR OWN TEAM".
RESPECT THE GAME
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I know of only one team in Nor Cal where the coach stays in 12U and coaches that age year after year - don't know Ms. Norwood but she must be part saint. So, if a 12U kid doesn't make her team, she should learn to play chess? 12 U is, I think, where most girls graduate from rec ball to travel ball. This whole "do you homework / research" thing is just not realistic when you join that first team. It is also not realistic to have a clue where your DD fits in for a year or two. How does she compare athletically, motivationally, competitively. That stuff takes some time to figure out. Having two DDs playing college ball it was very trial and error for the first couple of years.
How the F are you supposed to figure out if you are an A ball studette or a B ball also-ran if you don't go out there and play with somebody? You go to a couple of try outs, you do your best to make what you think is the best decision for a place for your DD and you see what happens. Unless the OP's first choice is a complete horror show I'm not sure cutting bait is necessarily the best thing to do - it may be. Now mom & dad have to, probably literally, take notes on all the teams they play, cruise the park, watch the other teams' warm ups, chat up the parents, watch the girls and the coaches during the games and hopefully find a better situation during the next round of tryouts.
Respect the game? Dilute the talent? The 12Us are frickin' 10, 11 and 12 years old. Please. That concentration of talent sorts itself out quite nicely by the time 16's and 18's rolls around. Let the girls play, the dads coach and figure out where they fit in.
JMO
How the F are you supposed to figure out if you are an A ball studette or a B ball also-ran if you don't go out there and play with somebody? You go to a couple of try outs, you do your best to make what you think is the best decision for a place for your DD and you see what happens. Unless the OP's first choice is a complete horror show I'm not sure cutting bait is necessarily the best thing to do - it may be. Now mom & dad have to, probably literally, take notes on all the teams they play, cruise the park, watch the other teams' warm ups, chat up the parents, watch the girls and the coaches during the games and hopefully find a better situation during the next round of tryouts.
Respect the game? Dilute the talent? The 12Us are frickin' 10, 11 and 12 years old. Please. That concentration of talent sorts itself out quite nicely by the time 16's and 18's rolls around. Let the girls play, the dads coach and figure out where they fit in.
JMO
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
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CheckWriter - Premium Member
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You must be guilty to exactly what Im talking about... funny! i do agree with one thing you said.. LET THE GIRLS PLAY.....
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I find this situation so funny for Team Extreme. Girls who were on good teams with good coaching left to be coached by olympic gold medalist but it fell through. Ok, so no one is to blame. You move on we get it. But these parents put down good coaches and wanted the best of the best for their daughters like we all do. However now they are willing to take a chance on two dads with so so coaching experience. Like I said before there is a ton of talent on that team just hope it doesn't get wasted. Parents now can see the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Plus we all know what parents were trying to get their daughters back on the previous teams they played for and the parents who were calling coaches to get their daughters secured spots. Hope this works out for the girls. 
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knee saver - Posts: 8
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There is a difference between a daddy coaching a team, and a dad (or mom) giving their kid a spot or extra play that they haven't earned. Let's face it, that's how it goes, but please don't think that because it happens that makes it ok....
- AdmittedBias
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Girls who were on good teams with good coaching left to be coached by olympic gold medalist but it fell through. Ok, so no one is to blame.
So you telling me that all of the players that went to those teams left these AMAZING coaches? Their original teams all had great coaching?
And even if they did leave, and now they want to come back... who cares.
When I started the Monarchs in Fall of 2010, I lost most of my then 16u team that Summer for various reasons. There was no hard feelings on parents, players, or my part. It just happened.
Fast forward a few months....... outfielder comes back....... 2nd baseman comes back......another players was damn close to coming back.........and without a second thought on my part. I loved those kids when they played for me, and them leaving didnt change that.
If someone wants to go to another team, for whatever reason, who cares. We lost one player from this past Falls season. She decided to not return for whatever reason.
I just heard she verbaled to her number 1 school, I didnt hesitate to send her a text letting her know how happy I am for her.
It is a game, and EVERYONE is just doing what works best for them. Get over it already.
So you telling me that all of the players that went to those teams left these AMAZING coaches? Their original teams all had great coaching?
And even if they did leave, and now they want to come back... who cares.
When I started the Monarchs in Fall of 2010, I lost most of my then 16u team that Summer for various reasons. There was no hard feelings on parents, players, or my part. It just happened.
Fast forward a few months....... outfielder comes back....... 2nd baseman comes back......another players was damn close to coming back.........and without a second thought on my part. I loved those kids when they played for me, and them leaving didnt change that.
If someone wants to go to another team, for whatever reason, who cares. We lost one player from this past Falls season. She decided to not return for whatever reason.
I just heard she verbaled to her number 1 school, I didnt hesitate to send her a text letting her know how happy I am for her.
It is a game, and EVERYONE is just doing what works best for them. Get over it already.
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I agree girls go to diffrent teams for what ever reason, but I also think you should go to a diffrent team without burning bridges. You burn a bridge with one coach or team I don't think it should be expected that you can come back like nothing ever happend. I really think at the 12u level the girls can decide who they would like to play for. I don't think you should just up and leave a team without respecting the team you were on.
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bleacherpreacher - Posts: 16
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Burning bridges works both ways.
I cant speak as to what happened between players that left teams and their coaches or how it all went down. But you offer good advice. Just because someone leaves a team, doesnt mean everyone needs to be all pissy.
One of my best friends and his wife (going back over 20 years) had a daughter on my team for 2 years, and when I started the Monarchs they left to play for another team. She is damn good....... we still barbecue, we still hang out.
And what do you mean when you say that you shouldnt "just up and leave a team?" How else are you supposed to do it? You decide to leave, then place a phone call or email to coach and let them know you are leaving. I dont think that is burning a bridge. I agree with you though... do it the right way. It doesnt require some 1hr phone call explaining why. Just a respectful notice.
By the way, after our last Fall/Summer tourney, I require ALL players/parents to send me an email or a text within a day after our last game letting me know if they are coming back. If they dont send me said email, Im assuming they are gone and I am looking for a player to replace them. If they dont respond, then that means they are looking.
I cant speak as to what happened between players that left teams and their coaches or how it all went down. But you offer good advice. Just because someone leaves a team, doesnt mean everyone needs to be all pissy.
One of my best friends and his wife (going back over 20 years) had a daughter on my team for 2 years, and when I started the Monarchs they left to play for another team. She is damn good....... we still barbecue, we still hang out.
And what do you mean when you say that you shouldnt "just up and leave a team?" How else are you supposed to do it? You decide to leave, then place a phone call or email to coach and let them know you are leaving. I dont think that is burning a bridge. I agree with you though... do it the right way. It doesnt require some 1hr phone call explaining why. Just a respectful notice.
By the way, after our last Fall/Summer tourney, I require ALL players/parents to send me an email or a text within a day after our last game letting me know if they are coming back. If they dont send me said email, Im assuming they are gone and I am looking for a player to replace them. If they dont respond, then that means they are looking.
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Did this coach really post a reply agreeing that he didn't know how to coach but he has coaches working with him that do know how to coach, and then delete the
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