So, how many of you out there are Bernie supporters?

[Skarp]

As China's economy matures it too will lose its cost advantage-but will be a large consumer market to sell to.

Sell them what? We don't make anything anymore. And making things is the real creation of wealth. A service economy is almost purely derivative. Cheaper Chinese products won't seem so cheap when the money runs out.

Economists like to live in their "comparative advantage" fantasy land. In the real world there is nationalism, currency manipulation (which effectively operates as a tariff), intellectual property theft, state-facilitated industrial espionage, differing standards of quality, safety, and human rights...and the list goes on. Their is no free trade Shangri-La. Never has been, and never will be.

Trump says that what China has done is like a magic act, and he's right. They got our manufacturing base and we owe them trillions in the bargain. And now they are militarizing at a breakneck pace. The politicians complicit in this should be hung.

[Safebyahare]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I will not be removing the fixed fortification around my house.
I will not remove the walls of my house.
They are limited, but work as intended.

They work even better when there is a penalty for crossing while I'm on sentry duty.

[Skarp]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I'll see your Patton and raise you Sun Tzu.

You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended. You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked.

[ontheblack]

No point in going to a fire without bringing some more fuel to throw on it:

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/7/11868028/ev ... nevertrump

There is one HUGE glaring omission in this piece - SCOTUS.

[ontheblack]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I'll see your Patton and raise you Sun Tzu.

You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended. You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked.

Well played.

[Blind Squirrel]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I will not be removing the fixed fortification around my house.
I will not remove the walls of my house.
They are limited, but work as intended.

They work even better when there is a penalty for crossing while I'm on sentry duty.

I suspect General Patton was not referring to walls intended to offer protection from street urchins.

[Safebyahare]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I will not be removing the fixed fortification around my house.
I will not remove the walls of my house.
They are limited, but work as intended.
They work even better when there is a penalty for crossing while I'm on sentry duty.

I suspect General Patton was not referring to walls intended to offer protection from street urchins.

Well, it's not the Mexican Army coming across.
It's not well trained soldiers on a mission to conquer.
It is in fact a migration of Urchins. (I will call them Urchinians.)
The Urchinians want a better life and free stuff. Our free stuff.
In order to be humane, we need to stop or impede there routes.
To make it undesirable to make the trek.
The Urchinians are draining our schools, and budget.
Do nothing?

[Pale Rider]

Agreed, we arent under attack from the Mexican Army...drug cartels, yes, Army, no...yet anyway
...I was being facetious about the Berlin Wall...etc
A wall in and of itself (without direct fire of course) isn't an insurmountable barrier, and yes the border fence in San Diego do work but they just skirt them in AZ and invade from the East...

But we aren't talking about a 'war' ...and the fence I want is one with flowing controlled gates, where we can control immigration...My family are immigrants BUT my great grand father came thru Ellis Island and not just cross a barbed wire fence and wasn't on welfare and invited on the hope he'd vote to keep folks in power.
Immigration does need reformed, but an uncontrolled invasion isn't a good thing, ask the Native Americans

If you dont like the non PC term of a wall...Think of it more as a dam, with flood gates...

BTW, ever seen the 'wall' on the South Border of Mexico?...they DO use direct fire
Despite the democrap yacking, Trump doesn't want to stop immigration, he wants to control it on a maneable sustainable basis

[Blind Squirrel]

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

I'll see your Patton and raise you Sun Tzu.

You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended. You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked.

I graduated from Cal State Dominguez Hills which is at or near the bottom of the Cal State system. I probably shouldn't even post but I'm unconcerned about advertising my often substandard intellect/knowledge. So here goes... I don't understand:

1. I consider an unguarded wall in the middle of nowhere to be undefended in the sense that there is little to prevent me from piling up explosives and blowing a hole in the wall. What would stop me?

2. How is a wall in the middle of nowhere not able to be attacked?

I'm obviously missing something. Oh my, what a new feeling.

Overmatched Squirrel

[Pale Rider]

2. How is a wall in the middle of nowhere not able to be attacked?

I'm obviously missing something. Oh my, what a new feeling.

Overmatched Squirrel

Drive over to Nevada...little place called Groom Lake, aka Area 51...go down a road till you see an unguarded locked gate...and start walking past it...

A fence doesn't have to a physical object...but...a physical wall with modern technology and a response time in minutes is one helluva deterrent....its not an impenetrable barrier either...
Its a deterrent...better than the red carpet

White House a fence (which they just raised)
Zuckerberg has a fence...
My yard has a fence...
Why cant my / our Country?