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So, how many of you out there are Bernie supporters?

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by Safebyahare » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:40 pm

aparent wrote:
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aparent wrote:Not sure where you pulled that one from. I'm writing in Rand Paul.

I like Rand Paul, great guy, excellent speaker, reasonable, a real Constitutionalist, but he is no longer running for the office of President.
If you write in a candidate you may as well write yourself in, the odds are the same.
To use your vote to its fullest potential there are only two practical choices.
For being a Rand Paul dude, I find little logic an intellect in this decision.
JMO

Fair point, obvious but fair. I did consider this, but we are given the same false choices every four years, With the argument being that third party votes will just let the other guy win, I am done with it, I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more, i will cast my vote for candidates I believe in and only candidates I believe in.
Maybe when enough people truly get fed up and just abandon these rigged parties then we will get the best and the brightest not these idiots.

I understand your point, view and frustration.
Rand Paul is the only candidate that I have ever donated money to.
After he suspended his candidacy I focused on Ted Cruz (another Constitutionalist)(conservative) . He might have pulled it off, but he wore his religion too far out in front of him, when he should have kept it closer and more personal. (turn off for some) (President not Pastor)
Which leaves us or me with the final candidate who I will gamble on rather than a sure loser for America Hillary.
As posted earlier I went out of my way, changed parties, and actually voted for Bernie in order to damage the dangerous. (Hillary)
I'm not going to try to sway you, that is yours,,,,,but America could sure use your help.
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by PDad » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:07 pm

ontheblack wrote:
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ontheblack wrote:This is not about leadership, a wall, income or gender or penis size equality, or anything else other than the future of the Supreme Court. That is all this election is about, because SCOTUS is the only thing either candidate can and will truly impact that will affect the rest of your life and that of your kids.

Their secondary impact is executive orders and regulations. The next president can overturn Obama's orders and regulations on immigration, EPA, health care, transgenders, et al. Obama needs a Dem successor to preserve his actions.


True, but the next POTUS can issue their own EOs and we can go back and forth, which makes it very much secondary to the longterm consequences of Supreme Court decisions. 5-4 SCOTUS decisions can be reversed. But 6-3 or 7-2? Not a chance in hell.

I said they're secondary for that reason. The window to overturn many regulations is limited to before their impact is irreversible, which is what I fear with 4-8 years of Clinton.
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by PDad » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:26 pm

aparent wrote:
Safebyahare wrote:
aparent wrote:Not sure where you pulled that one from. I'm writing in Rand Paul.

I like Rand Paul, great guy, excellent speaker, reasonable, a real Constitutionalist, but he is no longer running for the office of President.
If you write in a candidate you may as well write yourself in, the odds are the same.
To use your vote to its fullest potential there are only two practical choices.
For being a Rand Paul dude, I find little logic an intellect in this decision.
JMO

Fair point, obvious but fair. I did consider this, but we are given the same false choices every four years, With the argument being that third party votes will just let the other guy win, I am done with it, I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more, i will cast my vote for candidates I believe in and only candidates I believe in.

maybe when enough people truly get fed up and just abandon these rigged parties then we will get the best and the brightest not these idiots.

I understand how you feel and have voted similarly. We're typically outvoted by Dems in Cal, so voting for a lost cause while holding your nose isn't necessary. The only difference is I vote for someone on the ballot or registered as a write-in so my vote is counted.
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by as the world turns » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:52 pm

Dugout Dad wrote:
ontheblack wrote:I see this election from only one perspective - the future of the Supreme Court. Therefore if the choice is Trump vs Hillary or Bernie, Trump gets my vote.


Good reason. Check out Sotomayor's comments on race and judging.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html?_r=0


Apparently, no comment on this from aparent :roll:

In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

"Our", like in, other fellow "Raza" hispanic judges?

And from a Supreme Court Justice no less. Good find DD
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by Dugout Dad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:06 pm

Check this out. I tested it and got the same results. Google gets politically biased. Give it a try...

http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/626606-google-just-got-accused-of-cherry-picking-results-for-hillary-clinton-searches-so-we-put-it-to-the-test/
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by blackwidow » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:59 pm

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by as the world turns » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:14 am

Open borders then, BW?
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by Skarp » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:10 pm

ontheblack wrote:This is not about leadership, a wall, income or gender or penis size equality, or anything else other than the future of the Supreme Court. That is all this election is about, because SCOTUS is the only thing either candidate can and will truly impact that will affect the rest of your life and that of your kids..

Wrong. The reason that appointing strict constitutionalists is so important is that the left uses politicized courts to invent and/or overturn laws when they aren't able to do so via the legislative process. Once the left has the votes it needs to ram socialism down our throats, the Supreme Court fades in significance no matter who the sitting justices are. Constitutionalist judges won't overturn liberal laws just because they disagree with them--and once the lawless left has the numbers it's laughable to think it will feel bound by such decisions anyway.

This election is about IMMIGRATION. Period. Our immigration policy since the 1965 Immigration Act has been one extended exercise in election fraud--importing untold millions of people with third-world value systems and third-world expectations vis-à-vis the role of government, a large percentage of whom can reliably be expected to vote Democrat. (See, e.g., California, which now has more Hispanics than whites, and is therefore forever off the electoral map for Republicans). We either stop and reverse it now, or this republic is finished.
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by as the world turns » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:31 am

Trump killed it last night
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by Hurricane » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:44 pm

What I don't understand is why the President and the Hilarity candidate say that Trump's speech was "dark".

It's not a "New World" Order anymore...it's a New World "Disorder" since the rise of that JV team in ISIS.

Trump's speech was a wake-up call to the world that NOW is the time to for Law and Order. Calling out for the world to know that terrorism will not subside until it it met head on! It won't be pretty, but it has to be done. Thank God for our police and our military who put their lives on the line every day they leave their families.

The millenials need to wake up and look in the mirror and determine what kind of world they want when they "grow up".

Make America Great Again wasn't a made-up slogan...it was a response for the constant "apology" Tour our current president has been spewing every time he goes to a new country.

Seriously, has anyone noticed how many "questions" he answers when he's on foreign soil? All he has to do is say "It's inappropriate for me to talk about American issues when not in my own country.". But no, he replies to the "planted" reporters' questions by trying to promote an agenda that American is racist, sexist, misogynist, or worse. Why does he do this on foreign soil? or in the presence of foreign leaders who are at the White House?

All I know, is this country needs a change. More importantly, is to make sure this country has a Supreme Court who honor's the constitution and will NOT appoint judges that legislate from the bench.
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