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by Pale Rider » Sun May 01, 2016 12:51 pm

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Skarp wrote:My take on the other 4 candidates is that there are no other candidates. Trump is a man uniquely qualified for this task at this time. I thought he was going to be a joke too...until he started talking. I am now in absolute awe of the man. The media, the establishment, the billionaire donor class, the cancer of political correctness--he is single-handedly burning it ALL down.

Cruz is an abortion. Even supposing he could get elected (which he can't), he wouldn't be able to get anything done. His peers despise him, and he's got the popular appeal of a slug. (Yes and no. Not getting anything done is better than continuing down the ever expanding government path. Congress is generally gridlocked anyway and Cruz might motivate them to team up against him.) Trump will go in with a mandate, and will have the ability to appeal directly to the electorate when congress tries to obstruct his agenda--much like Reagan was able to do. (I expect Trump would bring new meaning to the bully pulpit.)

Kasich isn't even worth talking about. Complete disaster, ala Bush, Rubio, etc.
(Definitely not the cycle for candidates like him.)

Actually I did see a socialist coming, but I thought it would be Fauxcahontas--and I expected her to win the nomination. (I agree Warren would have if she had chosen to run.) This was always going to be a populist election cycle. What is stunning is how completely clueless the establishment/pundits/media have been as this phenomenon has unfolded. These people have zero understanding of what it means to be a real person in the real world. They are yesterday's men, and they deserve to look as stupid as they do.

Hillary Clinton is a terminally flawed, uber-establishment candidate, and Donald Trump is an unparalleled master at identifying and branding flaws. He is the apotheosis of "alpha-male." The man doesn't even understand the concept of defense. We've got months of popcorn-munching joy ahead of us (Yes, please come back and share more as this unfolds.)

Good stuff! Any concerns about Trump on foreign policy/relations?

With respect to Cruz, two things:

First, he's an original Bushie who has recast himself as a died-in-the-wool conservative. He has done so by grandstanding on unwinnable issues/votes, and by some super shady tactics like voting for cloture on TPA (which votes are not officially recorded) and then show-voting against TPA when it was certain to pass. As between TPP and open borders, I'll take open borders; at least we keep our sovereignty. Bottom line: Cruz is a globalist who is entirely beholden to big globalist interests (Goldman Sachs, anyone?). He's also a power seeker. You get the sense the guy has been running for president since he was 13.

Second, even assuming the best about Cruz, getting nothing done is no longer an option at this point. We need someone who can take a chainsaw to the leviathan, not just press pause until one more generation of anchor babies turn voting age and tip us irrecoverably over the edge. (Honestly I thought we had already passed that point until Trump stepped up, and we probably are regardless...).

Trump on foreign relations? The best we've seen in living memory. All of Reagan's strengths, and none of his weaknesses. No more interventionism. No more nation-building. No trying to force-feed democracy to cave-dwelling savages. No deposing stable dictators in favor of radical mobs. Slow to fight, but fight like a junkyard dog when we do. No unfair rules of engagement guaranteed to send American boys home in body bags. Massive reinvestment in military strength, but no more subsidizing the defense of the entire world; everyone pays their fair share or can defend their damn selves. Reliability with our friends, unpredictability with our enemies. An unparalleled understanding of leverage, and how to use it. A willingness to look for new friends (e.g., Russia) in a world that is dramatically different from the one in which old lines were drawn. I could go on and on. Above all, a willingness to stand up for American interests on the international stage the way all other countries stand up for their own interests. No more bad deals for America, and if that means we lose some "friends," so be it. Trump knows when it's time to walk away.


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by DonnieS » Mon May 02, 2016 8:41 am

Pale Rider wrote:
Skarp wrote:
PDad wrote:
Skarp wrote:My take on the other 4 candidates is that there are no other candidates. Trump is a man uniquely qualified for this task at this time. I thought he was going to be a joke too...until he started talking. I am now in absolute awe of the man. The media, the establishment, the billionaire donor class, the cancer of political correctness--he is single-handedly burning it ALL down.

Cruz is an abortion. Even supposing he could get elected (which he can't), he wouldn't be able to get anything done. His peers despise him, and he's got the popular appeal of a slug. (Yes and no. Not getting anything done is better than continuing down the ever expanding government path. Congress is generally gridlocked anyway and Cruz might motivate them to team up against him.) Trump will go in with a mandate, and will have the ability to appeal directly to the electorate when congress tries to obstruct his agenda--much like Reagan was able to do. (I expect Trump would bring new meaning to the bully pulpit.)

Kasich isn't even worth talking about. Complete disaster, ala Bush, Rubio, etc.
(Definitely not the cycle for candidates like him.)

Actually I did see a socialist coming, but I thought it would be Fauxcahontas--and I expected her to win the nomination. (I agree Warren would have if she had chosen to run.) This was always going to be a populist election cycle. What is stunning is how completely clueless the establishment/pundits/media have been as this phenomenon has unfolded. These people have zero understanding of what it means to be a real person in the real world. They are yesterday's men, and they deserve to look as stupid as they do.

Hillary Clinton is a terminally flawed, uber-establishment candidate, and Donald Trump is an unparalleled master at identifying and branding flaws. He is the apotheosis of "alpha-male." The man doesn't even understand the concept of defense. We've got months of popcorn-munching joy ahead of us (Yes, please come back and share more as this unfolds.)

Good stuff! Any concerns about Trump on foreign policy/relations?

With respect to Cruz, two things:

First, he's an original Bushie who has recast himself as a died-in-the-wool conservative. He has done so by grandstanding on unwinnable issues/votes, and by some super shady tactics like voting for cloture on TPA (which votes are not officially recorded) and then show-voting against TPA when it was certain to pass. As between TPP and open borders, I'll take open borders; at least we keep our sovereignty. Bottom line: Cruz is a globalist who is entirely beholden to big globalist interests (Goldman Sachs, anyone?). He's also a power seeker. You get the sense the guy has been running for president since he was 13.

Second, even assuming the best about Cruz, getting nothing done is no longer an option at this point. We need someone who can take a chainsaw to the leviathan, not just press pause until one more generation of anchor babies turn voting age and tip us irrecoverably over the edge. (Honestly I thought we had already passed that point until Trump stepped up, and we probably are regardless...).

Trump on foreign relations? The best we've seen in living memory. All of Reagan's strengths, and none of his weaknesses. No more interventionism. No more nation-building. No trying to force-feed democracy to cave-dwelling savages. No deposing stable dictators in favor of radical mobs. Slow to fight, but fight like a junkyard dog when we do. No unfair rules of engagement guaranteed to send American boys home in body bags. Massive reinvestment in military strength, but no more subsidizing the defense of the entire world; everyone pays their fair share or can defend their damn selves. Reliability with our friends, unpredictability with our enemies. An unparalleled understanding of leverage, and how to use it. A willingness to look for new friends (e.g., Russia) in a world that is dramatically different from the one in which old lines were drawn. I could go on and on. Above all, a willingness to stand up for American interests on the international stage the way all other countries stand up for their own interests. No more bad deals for America, and if that means we lose some "friends," so be it. Trump knows when it's time to walk away.


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by as the world turns » Mon May 02, 2016 5:34 pm

If you just got back from work today, your income taxes are helping support 5-6 of these families, congratulations!
Your efforts are not wasted, here is the fruits of your labor (and did I mention tax dollars?).

Warning *NSFW*

https://youtu.be/DCMZaBFcxrk

Trump should make this into a commercial
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by Sam » Tue May 03, 2016 7:11 am

Looks like Trump is serving the koolaid on Heybucket. Skarp's view of Cruz is skewed. He is a conservative, as proven by his voting record. His vote for cloture on TPA was only to close debate and give the bill an actual vote....then he voted No. He is not the neocon that Bush was. He does know the issues and he isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in. He is hated by his fellow congressmen because he does just that. Cruz was widely criticized by his colleagues for shutting the Government down in 2013 over the funding of Obamacare solely because it exposed them as hypocrites. The result of the shutdown in the 2014 elections was the GOP takeover of the Senate along with added seats in the House. These guys should be kissing his ass.

Trump couldn't carry Reagan's jock strap. Reagan studied issues, was principled and held his ground on key issues. Trump is a businessman who has no principles, gets his information from TV shows, and negotiates EVERYTHING. He is sloppy, undisciplined and stupid. Trump got where he is today by buying off politicians who change zoning, invoke imminent domain, and dole out tasty tax breaks. He's the "You're Fired" guy on TV. He is the only candidate who Hillary Clinton can defeat in a debate.....he gave her campaign money....he gave her Clinton Foundation Money.....she went to his frickin wedding.

Trump will do nothing he says...other than throw Israel under the bus.
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by Skarp » Tue May 03, 2016 9:32 am

Sam wrote:Looks like Trump is serving the koolaid on Heybucket. Skarp's view of Cruz is skewed. He is a conservative, as proven by his voting record. His vote for cloture on TPA was only to close debate and give the bill an actual vote....then he voted No. He is not the neocon that Bush was. He does know the issues and he isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in. He is hated by his fellow congressmen because he does just that. Cruz was widely criticized by his colleagues for shutting the Government down in 2013 over the funding of Obamacare solely because it exposed them as hypocrites. The result of the shutdown in the 2014 elections was the GOP takeover of the Senate along with added seats in the House. These guys should be kissing his ass.

Trump couldn't carry Reagan's jock strap. Reagan studied issues, was principled and held his ground on key issues. Trump is a businessman who has no principles, gets his information from TV shows, and negotiates EVERYTHING. He is sloppy, undisciplined and stupid. Trump got where he is today by buying off politicians who change zoning, invoke imminent domain, and dole out tasty tax breaks. He's the "You're Fired" guy on TV. He is the only candidate who Hillary Clinton can defeat in a debate.....he gave her campaign money....he gave her Clinton Foundation Money.....she went to his frickin wedding.

Trump will do nothing he says...other than throw Israel under the bus.

Mouth talking points much?

Cruz's colleagues don't hate him because he is principled. Jeff Sessions is a principled conservative and he is well-liked. Mike Lee has a perfect conservative rating by Conservative Review and he is well-liked. Cruz's colleagues hate him because he is a grubby political climber who takes every opportunity to promote himself at their expense. If you worked with Cruz you would hate him too. Can you imagine having a normal conversation with the guy? Neither can anyone else.

Re Reagan, the same interests who are attacking Trump now were attacking Reagan then, and for precisely the same reasons. He's stupid. He's unhinged. He's unqualified. He's a B-movie actor. He'll start WWIII. He's a fascist who will turn the U.S. into a dictatorship. He doesn't understand the world or the complexity of the relationships at play in it. His economic policies are unworkable. Etc., etc., ad nauseam, from establishment narrative-makers on both the left and the right. All Reagan really had going for him was massive populist appeal, smarts and common sense, and an understanding of correct principles. Precisely what Trump has going for him--oh and business acumen, a history of doing real work creating real things employing tens of thousands of real people, and an intimate understanding of how to deliver quality outcomes under budget and ahead of schedule. But maybe we don't actually need those things in government. :roll:

It takes a 2/3 majority vote to end cloture, and only 50% plus 1 to pass the actual vote on a bill. So if you're actually trying (i.e., not just pretend trying) to stop a bill that has majority support from passing, it's at the cloture vote where you need to make your stand. Cruz didn't want to stop TPA/TPP--he just wanted to look like he wanted to stop TPA/TPP. Cruz is a globalist, and he has always been a globalist. He relies heavily on financial support from globalist special interests. His wife works for Goldman Sachs, for F-sake. Ask yourself: do you know anybody who works at Goldman Sachs? Princeton...Harvard Law...a life spent aggressively climbing the political ladder...if you think Cruz is a man for the people then you've been doing some heavy Koolaide drinking of your own.
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by aparent » Tue May 03, 2016 11:18 am

Douglas Adams said it well..

"[An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship…]

“I come in peace,” it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, “take me to your Lizard.”

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see…”

“You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”

“No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

“I did,” said ford. “It is.”

“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

“What?”

“I said,” said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, “have you got any gin?”

“I’ll look. Tell me about the lizards.”

Ford shrugged again.

“Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them,” he said. “They’re completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone’s got to say it.”"


TIme to get rid of the lizards. Hillary is a lizard, Cruz is a lizard, Bernie and Trump both represent a populist wave of anti lizard rebellion (albeit from two distinct sides of the spectrum), any way you slice it, people are getting sick of lizards. I am a liberal, not the co-opted version of the term that has come to mean eating vegan and giving handouts, but in the classical sense of believing that people should be free to do whatever the hell they want unless they start adversely affecting others. The two parties have both always left something to be desired for me. I generally approve of Republican economic principles but do not agree with their stances on many social issues. I generally approve of Democratic stances on personal liberty but not with economic policies. Our choice is going to be between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I have not heard Clinton offer any indication that she will change the course of the country. Trump has.

My hope is that he is elected and it leads to a realignment of the parties as they both realize that it is the end of the road for the status quo.. I would like to see the the formation of a third party that is more centrist in nature. Having two parties means that no matter where you go you have to either get in bed with religious zealots on the right or economic parasites on the left. I truly think that the vast majority of us occupy more of the center and we just kind of choose which one the parties to be affiliated with but in reality, neither is a good fit.

So vote for Trump and let's see if we can't light a match to the way thigns are done in Washington, he would have a hard time being worse than Bush or Obama.
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by Sam » Tue May 03, 2016 12:56 pm

Skarp wrote:
Sam wrote:Looks like Trump is serving the koolaid on Heybucket. Skarp's view of Cruz is skewed. He is a conservative, as proven by his voting record. His vote for cloture on TPA was only to close debate and give the bill an actual vote....then he voted No. He is not the neocon that Bush was. He does know the issues and he isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in. He is hated by his fellow congressmen because he does just that. Cruz was widely criticized by his colleagues for shutting the Government down in 2013 over the funding of Obamacare solely because it exposed them as hypocrites. The result of the shutdown in the 2014 elections was the GOP takeover of the Senate along with added seats in the House. These guys should be kissing his ass.

Trump couldn't carry Reagan's jock strap. Reagan studied issues, was principled and held his ground on key issues. Trump is a businessman who has no principles, gets his information from TV shows, and negotiates EVERYTHING. He is sloppy, undisciplined and stupid. Trump got where he is today by buying off politicians who change zoning, invoke imminent domain, and dole out tasty tax breaks. He's the "You're Fired" guy on TV. He is the only candidate who Hillary Clinton can defeat in a debate.....he gave her campaign money....he gave her Clinton Foundation Money.....she went to his frickin wedding.

Trump will do nothing he says...other than throw Israel under the bus.

Mouth talking points much?

Cruz's colleagues don't hate him because he is principled. Jeff Sessions is a principled conservative and he is well-liked. Mike Lee has a perfect conservative rating by Conservative Review and he is well-liked. Cruz's colleagues hate him because he is a grubby political climber who takes every opportunity to promote himself at their expense. If you worked with Cruz you would hate him too. Can you imagine having a normal conversation with the guy? Neither can anyone else.

Re Reagan, the same interests who are attacking Trump now were attacking Reagan then, and for precisely the same reasons. He's stupid. He's unhinged. He's unqualified. He's a B-movie actor. He'll start WWIII. He's a fascist who will turn the U.S. into a dictatorship. He doesn't understand the world or the complexity of the relationships at play in it. His economic policies are unworkable. Etc., etc., ad nauseam, from establishment narrative-makers on both the left and the right. All Reagan really had going for him was massive populist appeal, smarts and common sense, and an understanding of correct principles. Precisely what Trump has going for him--oh and business acumen, a history of doing real work creating real things employing tens of thousands of real people, and an intimate understanding of how to deliver quality outcomes under budget and ahead of schedule. But maybe we don't actually need those things in government. :roll:

It takes a 2/3 majority vote to end cloture, and only 50% plus 1 to pass the actual vote on a bill. So if you're actually trying (i.e., not just pretend trying) to stop a bill that has majority support from passing, it's at the cloture vote where you need to make your stand. Cruz didn't want to stop TPA/TPP--he just wanted to look like he wanted to stop TPA/TPP. Cruz is a globalist, and he has always been a globalist. He relies heavily on financial support from globalist special interests. His wife works for Goldman Sachs, for F-sake. Ask yourself: do you know anybody who works at Goldman Sachs? Princeton...Harvard Law...a life spent aggressively climbing the political ladder...if you think Cruz is a man for the people then you've been doing some heavy Koolaide drinking of your own.


....but the Donald IS a man for the people.....that is hilarious. Donald is a man for himself and only himself at all times. He's not going to tear down the establishment because he IS the establishment....on both sides. He pays whomever he needs in order to get what he wants. You call that running a business and creating jobs. I call it using the system for his own personal gain. He didn't give a crap about the people when he used imminent domain. He has never done a thing in life with the purpose of helping people....other than himself.

Actually it takes a 3/5 majority to invoke cloture and Cruz voted against cloture:

"The 60-37 vote all but ensures the passage of legislation that will allow Obama to "fast-track" the trade pacts he negotiates through Congress, preventing filibusters or amendments. Liberals have long assailed Obama's trade agenda, but Republicans successfully wooed a bloc of Democrats led by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) to secure enough votes to overcome a filibuster.

With the 60-vote threshold cleared, the path is now open for the Senate to take a final vote on the legislation on Wednesday.

The fate of the bill, also known as Trade Promotion Authority, hinged on whether backers of the fast-track legislation could win over Democratic Sens. Maria Cantwell (Wash.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Chris Coons (Del.). All three remained mum as to their intentions before the vote, with Coons lambasting the Senate on his way to the chamber for taking up a free trade vote while at the same time letting financing for exports, through the Export-Import Bank, lapse. It wasn't enough to sway his vote, though, as all three voted to move forward.

The vote came down to the wire, thanks to an eleventh-hour reversal by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who announced his opposition in a bombastic op-ed for Breitbart News that sent Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) scrambling for additional Democratic support."


Sessions is a traitor to the conservatives for his support of Trump, who stands for nothing. He will regret his support as soon as Trump walks over to Harry Reid and negotiates on anything and everything he has stated he would do in the campaign. He's donated to Dirty Harry's campaigns so it should be fairly easy.

Reagan's detractors were democrats. Reagan stood up for his principles. Trump is only saying what he thinks people want to hear in order get elected. Hitler was also a populist.
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by jtat32 » Tue May 03, 2016 1:58 pm

aparent wrote: I am a liberal, not the co-opted version of the term that has come to mean eating vegan and giving handouts, but in the classical sense of believing that people should be free to do whatever the hell they want unless they start adversely affecting others.


It's interesting that you phrase your definition that way - that would be my definition of what conservatism should be in the classic sense. I'm not arguing with you, or saying that you're wrong - in today's political climate, we seem to be more interested in ideology instead of ideals (if that makes any sense) and that leads to a loss of individual liberty whether you take the left path or the right path to get there.

Say what you will about Bernie, but he seems to be the one candidate out there that seems to have clearly laid out a platform that is consistent with his political ideals, as opposed to pandering to an ideology. Maybe Kasich, too. I disagree with his ideals, and won't be voting for him, but it's somewhat refreshing to see.
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by aparent » Tue May 03, 2016 3:11 pm

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aparent wrote: I am a liberal, not the co-opted version of the term that has come to mean eating vegan and giving handouts, but in the classical sense of believing that people should be free to do whatever the hell they want unless they start adversely affecting others.


It's interesting that you phrase your definition that way - that would be my definition of what conservatism should be in the classic sense.


In a classic sense, conservatism would have us still living under kings, by definition conservatives have always favored the status quo and liberals have pushed for change and more specifically equality and freedom for all. By classical I am talking Enlightenment era stuff here. Somewhere along the lines there was a bit of a switch both in the terminology and in the alignment of parties. it is so fubared now that both parties have liberal (change) and conservative (status quo) wings. I would say that people that favor a very limited government are actually taking a liberal stance because it lends itself to personal freedom and the government has been so overactive for such a long time that it is now the status quo but I think most would characterize this as a conservative principle.

We have a majority of Americans that think they disagree with each other because they differ on 5% of the issues and because they self identify as either CONSERVATIVE or LIBERAL. In reality I think the vast majority of us agree on most things. MOST Americans favor a strong military that is seldom used, MOST Americans think heath care should be easier and less expensive, MOST Americans think we should have the choice of where to send our kids to school and that school should focus on basics like MATH, SCIENCE and ENGLISH, MOST Americans do not want a political system that gives undo access to the wealthy donor class, MOST Americans believe we have a constitutional right to bear arms, MOST Americans think that Employers should not have the ability to hire/fire based on race, religion, or sexual preference. MOST Americans have no problem paying reasonable taxes as long as the money is spent wisely, ALL Americans hate their cable company. The list goes on and on. We get divided up over stupid, fake issues like whether or not a man who thinks he is a woman can used a ladies restroom, or whether or not a man can marry a man, Meanwhile our streets are crumbling, our taxes are outrageous, the middle class is disappearing and a college education is becoming harder and harder to achieve.

We are so f*cked in the head that the term "islamic terrorist" is not used by an entire party because they are so PC brainwashed that they think that any mention of anything that classifies people is somehow dangerous. The same people who can't bring themselves to say Merry Christmas and have to say happy holidays. Then we have a separate group on the other side that wants to tell people who they can love and tell people it is OK to take Ambien but if you take medicinal marijuana you are a druggie.

Guns N Roses had a song a long time back called "one in a million" that kind of describes how I feel, i want the tree hugging, Prius drivers to all disappear and have them closely followed by the holier than thou religious right, maybe when the fringe parts of both parties stop trying to make everyone believe what they believe then the 80% of sensible people in the middle can improve things. But as long as the Dems need the thought police wing to win and the GOP needs the bible thumpers to win then we will always have this screwed up situation.

These are the same people that watch an NBA game and still think white people and black people have the same athletic ability.
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by Skarp » Tue May 03, 2016 3:32 pm

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....but the Donald IS a man for the people.....that is hilarious. Donald is a man for himself and only himself at all times. He's not going to tear down the establishment because he IS the establishment....on both sides. He pays whomever he needs in order to get what he wants. You call that running a business and creating jobs. I call it using the system for his own personal gain. He didn't give a crap about the people when he used imminent domain. He has never done a thing in life with the purpose of helping people....other than himself.

Actually it takes a 3/5 majority to invoke cloture and Cruz voted against cloture:

"The 60-37 vote all but ensures the passage of legislation that will allow Obama to "fast-track" the trade pacts he negotiates through Congress, preventing filibusters or amendments. Liberals have long assailed Obama's trade agenda, but Republicans successfully wooed a bloc of Democrats led by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) to secure enough votes to overcome a filibuster.

With the 60-vote threshold cleared, the path is now open for the Senate to take a final vote on the legislation on Wednesday.

The fate of the bill, also known as Trade Promotion Authority, hinged on whether backers of the fast-track legislation could win over Democratic Sens. Maria Cantwell (Wash.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Chris Coons (Del.). All three remained mum as to their intentions before the vote, with Coons lambasting the Senate on his way to the chamber for taking up a free trade vote while at the same time letting financing for exports, through the Export-Import Bank, lapse. It wasn't enough to sway his vote, though, as all three voted to move forward.

The vote came down to the wire, thanks to an eleventh-hour reversal by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who announced his opposition in a bombastic op-ed for Breitbart News that sent Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) scrambling for additional Democratic support."


Sessions is a traitor to the conservatives for his support of Trump, who stands for nothing. He will regret his support as soon as Trump walks over to Harry Reid and negotiates on anything and everything he has stated he would do in the campaign. He's donated to Dirty Harry's campaigns so it should be fairly easy.

Reagan's detractors were democrats. Reagan stood up for his principles. Trump is only saying what he thinks people want to hear in order get elected. Hitler was also a populist.

Well let's see.

Here's an op ed by Cruz and Paul Ryan on their support for TPA:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/putting-con ... D5_GN6TckA

And here's Cruz on video explaining his support for same. If you want to understand the legislative shenanigans employed, the article is worth reading as well.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ith-video/

Reagan's detractors were democrats? How about George Will?
https://www.conservativereview.com/comm ... gop-divide

Or the rest of the Republican establishment?
http://spectator.org/articles/39417/ori ... ald-reagan

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... blishment/

Your comments about Trump lack any objective basis whatsoever. You know what's in Trump's heart, do you? How? You conclude that he has no intention of doing any of the things he says he wants to do--essentially that this whole enterprise is one giant multi-million dollar boondoggle--for what, pray tell? If he's a big liberal, or if he lacks a moral compass at all, why not run as a Dem against the most unpalatable field of candidates in a generation? Why take on "the deepest bench in history" on the Republican side? That doesn't add up at all.

It's telling that you believe that starting a business and growing it into an international behemoth constitutes never having done anything to help anyone other than himself. Hey, throw your support to Bernie then. He honeymooned in the Soviet Union and then dedicated his life to "service."

I'll take a 1% chance that Trump will do a fraction of the things that he says he will do over the 100% certainty that neither Ted Cruz nor any of the other people running will do anything at all to right this sinking ship. If he builds a wall and enforces our immigration laws and doesn't do anything else, reserve a spot for him on Mt. Rushmore in my book. But I think that Trump wants a spot on Mt. Rushmore for real. Which means he's going to work his ass off to solve the problems of this country. Which means he's going to do exactly what he says he's going to do.

We'll find out. It's on to the general. Lyin' Cruz is dead, and Crooked Hillary is next.
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