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by CatcherDad99 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:33 pm

Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.
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by Pale Rider » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:53 pm

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Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.


Other than token crap, GM will have its 'base' moved to China by 2020...already make more vehicles in China than in US...move all paid for by the US taxpayers...
When I was a kid, its was unusual to see something made in China...now its unusual to find something Made in the USA...
Im not a genius (like yall dont know that) but jobs are probably the biggest problem we have in the US...meaningful decent paying jobs...look around your area...How many factories etc have you seen close?

And those Human Studies Majors with $200K owed to Student loans will be need jobs at the Human Studies Factory... :|
Populations in some areas is growing, while jobs are non existent...How many folks are on welfare...?

...and I dont think any of that is accidental...
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by PuraVida » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:01 pm

CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



Welcome to the global economy
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by Pale Rider » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:14 pm

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CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



Welcome to the global economy


China has taken what made the US strong...more like welcome to New Delhi...or Mogadishu
Like what Lenin said...we'll sell the rope they hang us with...which is now, we'll subcontract the job to China to make the rope that hangs us...
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by PuraVida » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:28 pm

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CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



Welcome to the global economy


China has taken what made the US strong...more like welcome to New Delhi...or Mogadishu
Like what Lenin said...we'll sell the rope they hang us with...which is now, we'll subcontract the job to China to make the rope that hangs us...


china did not take anything the both large and small business freely gave . whether US based or any other part of the business world.
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by Safebyahare » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:54 pm

PuraVida wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:
PuraVida wrote:
CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



Welcome to the global economy


China has taken what made the US strong...more like welcome to New Delhi...or Mogadishu
Like what Lenin said...we'll sell the rope they hang us with...which is now, we'll subcontract the job to China to make the rope that hangs us...


china did not take anything the both large and small business freely gave . whether US based or any other part of the business world.

What of greedy unions that demand more than what is reasonable. Crippling many Corporations leaving them no choice.
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by Dugout Dad » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:27 pm

PuraVida wrote:
CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



Welcome to the global economy

Progressive policies have worked so well in Europe. 1749 apply for 30 jobs at a McDonalds in Italy.
http://www.thelocal.it/20141028/1749-apply-for-30-jobs-at-mcdonalds-in-venice
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by Dugout Dad » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:08 pm

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by Pale Rider » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:34 am

Carbon BS, is worldwide wealth redistribution...but all the money will go in some crooked politicians or a cronies acct...
Its a way to bring down developed countries to the level of 3rd world countries...or basically...1 world country, with 2 classes...Wealthy ruling class and poor...
Seems humanity is a NA$CAR track...we keep going around in circles...
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by jonriv » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:04 am

CatcherDad99 wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Sooner or later...and after almost $18 trillion bucks in the hole...the USA will fail...and you just think the Depression of the 30s sucked...


Were closer than any of us realize. Plus where will our kids make their money when everything is made over seas. I see it in my line of work all day, every day. These big corporations keep moving more and more jobs to countries where labor is a dollar a month. We need to start charging tariffs to these companies to level the playing fields.



The US was once the "cheap" labor country(Late 1800's -early 1900's) Industrial-labor-intensive jobs always move to the lower cost areas. Japan used to to be low-cost too. As China's middle class increases and its labor cost increase- that too will move. Tariffs are not the answer(unless you really want a depression-see Smoot-Hawley) Industrial jobs are also being eliminated/displaced by automation The issue the country is a gap between the labor needed and the technical skills of the labor force.. There are many high skilled jobs that remained unfilled due to a shortage of engineers etc...

Many companies are moving more of their high level stuff to the US due to our relatively cheaper energy costs- Siemens, Mercedes Most Hondas and Toyotas for the US are made here- Some Hondas are even exported to Japan. We are in a post-industrial world and are now in a high tech error. Whining and waxing poetic about a past that will never happen again is a waste of energy. It makes no economic sense to make cheaper goods here, better to focus on High margin products(The Germans have mastered this)

As far as the debt goes- the current amount is too high, however due to lower rates our national debt burden is actually at one of the lower amounts in history(but we do need to reduce it before rates increase again)- also in the strangest of conundrums-the vast majority of our debt is owed to ourselves

We are in a period of transition-such periods are always difficult and painful. With lots of displacement. Think of the change from agrarian-to industrial. Frankly our kids are in a far better place to adjust than we are. The future is in technology and information
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