This has to stop

[jonriv]

IMO

Too many Black leaders (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton) use and perpetuate racism for their own power and gain, They have done more harm for their communities than good(if any)

Many things that black community(sorry if I paint too broad a brush) to attain self identity. Africanized names, dress, language etc... have done more to alienate the community from the country as a whole and have made them seem more theatening. It has also lead to some of the issues

Focusing on the Police(instead of the real issue) of Black on Black crime has also been an issue

I would also agree that some affirmative action programs(although well intended) were executed so poorly that they put a stigma on all(including those that actually earned their positions)

I also believe that many in the black community(spurred by the before mentioned "leaders" use racism as an excuse or crutch, instead just a hurdle that they need to adapt to and overcome. The victim complex does not help


Having said that, to deny that there is not still broad racism against blacks in this country is naive. Much of it is below the surface and it is certainly much, much better than 40-50 years ago, but it is their never the less. The statistics don't lie. Much of it is unintended. I think it is imperative for all of us to fight any kind of racism whenever we see it.

Diversity is probably one of those things that gets bandied about and misused to often. The diversity of all of us is what makes us strong, but it is our homogenous society that makes us exceptional. Had a German family that rented a house from us, they had a Winnabago that they drove their family around for vacation(to get the full American experience) He said the one of the great things about the US was that you can drive thousands of miles and people still speak the same language and are basically the same-something we all take for granted

[DonnieS]

What is amazing is the number of black people who , inspite of our horrible racism , move to this country. I am or have worked with three in the last 15 months. They laugh or smile when this kind of malarkey comes on , and then, go back to work.

Regardless of color, if people dont want to be treated as trash, dont act like trash, and then consider that the way they are being treated is racism. My german ancestors had this unbelievable clever trick to assimilate into American life, they "americanized" their names - otherwise and I quote "How else are we going to do business or get jobs?". My Czech relatives did the same, a number of my hispanic friends did the same , my black friends - that have moved here from other countries, their names, Chris, Barry (not that one), and Mike. No Trayvonne, Jarvonne, Hayvonne.

and regarding your comment " to deny that there is not still broad racism against blacks in this country is naive." Bull shit. Its self-inflicted.

[jonriv]

What is amazing is the number of black people who , inspite of our horrible racism , move to this country. I am or have worked with three in the last 15 months. They laugh or smile when this kind of malarkey comes on , and then, go back to work.

Regardless of color, if people dont want to be treated as trash, dont act like trash, and then consider that the way they are being treated is racism. My german ancestors had this unbelievable clever trick to assimilate into American life, they "americanized" their names - otherwise and I quote "How else are we going to do business or get jobs?". My Czech relatives did the same, a number of my hispanic friends did the same , my black friends - that have moved here from other countries, their names, Chris, Barry (not that one), and Mike. No Trayvonne, Jarvonne, Hayvonne.

and regarding your comment " to deny that there is not still broad racism against blacks in this country is naive." Bull shit. Its self-inflicted.

I would probably agree with you on the "self inflicted" point to some degree, which is what my previous points were about. You and I will have to agree to disagree to the degree any other racisms exists.

As to your other points. I have worked with several West Indians(Jamaicans mostly) who look at their American counterparts as lazy, whiny cry-babies. I have also worked with some very well assimilated African Americans despite being hard workers, dressing right etc.. still get passed up by cabs and other forms of racism all the time.

I too am of German and Czech descent on my Dad's side(with some English & Scot on my mothers side) and agree that probably no other immigrant community has assimilated as well. Most people are surprised to learn that German-American is the largest ethnic group in the country(couldn't tell by attendance at the Von Steuben parade in NY) and I am sure there are lots of Millers out there that don't even know they are German. Much of it comes from an inate German practicality, the other from two world wars pushing out the rest. I will have to say my Czech great-Grandmother never did learn English.

[DonnieS]

Same here , regarding my czech grandma, she said she spoke english. My wife would disagree.

[fontana10!]

Jonvi are you serious about cops needing to find out when a crime is going to happen before it happens? Cops in no way have a chance to do that, even with something involving so many suspects. In addition to that, cops are often running call to call and have little to no time to try and investigate a future crime. This is the real world. You problably think teachers are also responsible for all the problems with the kids in schools. From someone who knows something about law enforcement, maybe you can come by the local station and give us advice on how to prevent crimes before they happen. Cops and victims across the country would be forever greatful. Today is 9/11, you posted how cops need to dig in, well first responders dig in everyday!

[jonriv]

Call the nypd, they have it to a science

[as the world turns]

Jonvi are you serious about cops needing to find out when a crime is going to happen before it happens? Cops in no way have a chance to do that, even with something involving so many suspects. In addition to that, cops are often running call to call and have little to no time to try and investigate a future crime. This is the real world. You problably think teachers are also responsible for all the problems with the kids in schools. From someone who knows something about law enforcement, maybe you can come by the local station and give us advice on how to prevent crimes before they happen. Cops and victims across the country would be forever greatful. Today is 9/11, you posted how cops need to dig in, well first responders dig in everyday!

Be careful what you ask for!! He'll be at your doorstep tomorrow

[Pale Rider]

Call the nypd, they have it to a science

HAD it to a science...then Guilliani left
Welcome to Jungle...again

[Dugout Dad]

Call the nypd, they have it to a science

HAD it to a science...then Guilliani left
Welcome to Jungle...again

The communist DeBlasio does not have federal security clearance for briefings . I wonder what he is hiding or what in his past keeps him from getting it? New Yorkers deserve what they voted for.
http://nypost.com/2014/09/10/de-blasio-doesnt-have-security-clearance-for-classified-info/

[jonriv]

Crime want down even more under bloomberg. Bratton was the first during his first turn as commissioner. I do agree that diblasio is a communist


Interesting stat on the nfl broadcast. Every day three women are killed by their partners, I guess they are at least partly responsible.......