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by NumeroUno » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:14 am

Ukraine buys almost all its energy (natural gas) from Russia. Revenues from natural gas sales are a primary source of income for Russia.
Because of the recent disagreement between Ukraine and Russia, Russia is raising the price of natural gas it sells to Ukraine.

Ukraine is almost broke and can't afford the increase in the natural gas price because it would be forced into bankruptcy.

Obama announced the United States is giving Ukraine $1 billion to assist in paying for the higher priced natural gas it buys from Russia.
So, the United States is actually giving Russia $1 billion because the money is just passing through Ukraine.



The first question: Has Putin figured out a way to raise the price of his natural gas sales and make the U.S. pay for the increase?

Next question: Was he really in the KGB or was he a commodities trader?

If this analysis is accurate, Putin just got Obama to pay him $1 billion by holding a press conference and trucking some troops across town from the Russian Navy base in Ukraine.

Who is the smartest guy in the room now?
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by jtat32 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:24 pm

NumeroUno wrote:Who is the smartest guy in the room now?


Sam


That email is bogus, BTW:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/ ... 1niG8e7knI
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by NumeroUno » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:49 pm

I don't think it's bogus, I will find the other info I read about it.
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by jonriv » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:35 am

There is some truth to the article, but loan guarantees are not the same as a loan or grant

However, what ever gains Putin might make on commodities, he and the Russian economy are getting crushed on the equities side(Stock mkt etc) Also they are getting crushed on the currency exchange side. Which begs the bigger question- why is russia doing this. Ethnic pride, Lebensraum. typical russian paranoi- or is ther some internal weakness we are unaware of in russia???

The other question what should(or can we do)?
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by SC44 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:15 am

I don’t think Putin is the smartest guy in the room. He may have the biggest balls in the room, but brain, NO. While Putin attempts to restore the “old” Soviet Union, Russia’s credit rating is one notch above junk status. Investors are withdrawing money as fast as they can and the country is going backwards financially.

What can/should we do? We better get ready ( the whole world that is). As soon Russia starts to suffer financially, Putin will cast blame on another country and invade in attempt to keep support of his people.
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by Lunatic Fringe » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:36 am

I listened to an interesting interview on NPR where a east coast professor who is considered an expert on Russia gave a very different look at the crisis. Her thoughts were given in the first two weeks of the crisis.

Her take is that Putin was about to get exposed for giving huge good buddy contracts to friends and supporters during the constuction of the Sochi Olympics. She thought that the cost overruns were much much greater than Putin was telling his people. The professor thinks that the Crimea was a giant smoke screen used to deflect attention away from Sochi, rally Russia in an "us vs. them" and to buy himself some more time to consolidate his power base.
Interesting.

No doubt Putin has made himself into the biggest gangster in Russia. It does seem that the biggest gangster in Russia is schooling the biggest gangster from Illinois. Maybe the gangster thing is why they dig each other?
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by jonriv » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:39 am

That actually sounds like a plausible explanation. A very risky game he is playing- even if he "wins" the financial cost might be devastating
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by blackwidow » Thu May 01, 2014 11:03 am

The whole game harks back to what Dr Zbig Brzezinski conceptualized way back in his 1997 opus The Grand Chessboard
The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brezinski
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Chessboard- ... chessboard

Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told
http://youtu.be/fWkfpGCAAuw

Victoria Nuland Admits: US Has Invested $5 Billion In The Development of Ukrainian, "Democratic Institutions"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e37599.htm

America’s ‘Grand Chessboard’ Breeds Destruction in Ukraine and Beyond
http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/03/03/amer ... nd-beyond/

Brzezinski, the global chessboard and the Ukrainian chakra
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/column ... _chakra-0/

Beneath the Ukraine Crisis: Shale Gas
http://www.globalresearch.ca/beneath-th ... as/5379228

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by jonriv » Thu May 01, 2014 11:30 am

I am sure BW if you and the web were around at the dawn of WWII- you would have similar links and videos that woukld have shown the German annexation of the Sudetenland, the rest of Czecheslovakia and the invasion of Poland were all justified...

Time to close up your bunker again...
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by blackwidow » Thu May 01, 2014 12:15 pm

UMMM okay?


So anyway, has anyone else actually read The Grand Chessboard?

It's actually quite fascinating.

And does anyone here actually know who Zbigniew Brezinski is?
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