Sam wrote:Well there are statistics and there are liars. The war on drugs definitely put more bodies behind bars and many in treatment centers. If you have never dealt with this issue directly, I would argue that you know nothing of what you are talking about. The virtual explosion of drug use in the 60's caused the Government to declare a war on drugs and forced states into crafting laws dealing with drugs. What occurred during the 60's was a consequence free environment leading to people dropping out of society. People were no longer productive.....because they tuned out. Now our country is being run by these same imbeciles.
Sorry, but I'm not smart enough to post a wikipedia reference.
Sam,
I really respect all the research you’ve done on over-use injuries and have used many of the links that you have provided for my own education and to pass along to others.
Yet, I’m not exactly sure what the point of your post is? I’ll dissect each statement and maybe you can clarify for me.
Well there are statistics and there are liars.
Are you saying that the statistics shown are wrong? Flawed? Or Fabricated?The war on drugs definitely put more bodies behind bars and many in treatment centers.
True. Are you saying that it is morally correct for people to be kidnapped and locked in cages because of the choice of substance they consume?If you have never dealt with this issue directly, I would argue that you know nothing of what you are talking about.
I would argue that this is a logical fallacy. Whether or not I have had direct dealings with the issue has nothing to do with the validity the facts presented. With that being said, if you grew up in this country as I did, you have more than enough experience and knowledge about the drug war by virtue of living in this society. I think I can safely say that most of the people in this country have had some experience with drugs, drug abuse, drug dealers or may have even had friends who have died from drug overdose. It does not change the facts presented.
The virtual explosion of drug use in the 60's caused the Government to declare a war on drugs and forced states into crafting laws dealing with drugs.
That is a perception with no concrete data in reality…according to a Gallup Poll from 2002….In popular imagination, the 1960s were the heyday of illegal drug use -- but historical data indicate they probably weren't. http://www.gallup.com/poll/6331/decades ... s-70s.aspxBut even if they were so what? What occurred during the 60's was a consequence free environment leading to people dropping out of society.
Again, so what? As long as these so-called societal drop-outs are not infringing on your rights what is the problem? Are we a free country or not? Who gets to decide? And what does a “consequence free” environment actually mean?
There are plenty of groups living off grid in communal type situations. They would rightly be considered to have dropped out of society.
Now the US Government is cracking down on those people too.
SWAT Team Raids Texas Organic Farm, Holds Residents At Gunpoint
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/swa ... -gunpoint/Michigan government unleashes armed raids on small pig farmers, forces farmer to shoot all his pigs
Learn more:
http://bakersgreenacres.com/People were no longer productive.....because they tuned out.
Define productive. In a free country do we have the right to be un-productive? Who gets to decide what productive is? Are we to be of the collectivist mindset and force everyone to be part of the collective or do we have the right to be left alone?Now our country is being run by these same imbeciles.
Our country is being run by the same ruling elite that has been running the country for the last 100 years. Sorry, but I'm not smart enough to post a Wikipedia reference.
Sam based on all the research you have shown for over- use you are obviously smart enough to do your own research and present any rebuttal to the sources I have provided. You chose not to.
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If anyone in a fan of Breaking Bad or The Wire this is a really great doc about the war on drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRVhgbVN9o