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by WildRoseCoach » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:55 am

Got a question, we are visitors and are down by 2 runs going into the top of the 5th. We score 3 runs to take the lead, which we keep and win the game. The starting pitcher is replaced in the bottom of the 5th, who gets the win? (No my DD isn't pitching I keep the stats for the team).
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by thedoanezone » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:08 am

Assuming that the new pitcher in the 5th started the new inning, whoever ended the 4th inning in the circle gets the "W"
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by WildRoseCoach » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:42 am

Thats what I was thinking.. just needed clarification... thanks
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by Sam » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:36 am

Spazsdad wrote:Pitching: Winning and Losing Pitcher
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1. Credit the starting pitcher With a Win if she has pitched at least four total
innings, is ahead when replaced, and if the team stays ahead for the rest of the
game.
2. When a regulation game ends after five innings, the starting pitcher must pitch
three innings and her team must win in order to be credited with the win.
3. If the starting pitcher can't receive credit for the Win (not enough innings or her
team falls behind after she leaves), credit a single relief pitcher with the win.
4. If the starting pitcher can't receive credit for the Win (not enough innings or her
team falls behind after she leaves), and more than one relief pitcher is used
a - if the lead is never lost, credit the relief pitcher whose pitching is
most effective with the win, or
b - if the score is tied or the eventual winning team falls behind, the
relief pitcher who is the pitcher of record when her team gains the
lead and stays in the lead thereafter, is credited with the win
(Exception .- a brief or ineffective appearance followed by another
reliever who is effective in maintaining the lead does not receive
credit for the win; the effective reliever does).
5. No pitcher can receive credit for a win if the score becomes tied or her team falls
behind after she leaves the game, unless she comes back in and regains the lead.
6. If a pitcher is removed from the game offensively by a batter or runner, all runs
scored by her team are credited to her benefit in determining when her team is in
the lead.
7. A shutout is scored by pitching scoreless ball for the entire game or if the pitcher
did the same after relieving in the first inning before any outs or any score, (If two
or more pitchers combine for a shutout, note it in the record).
8. The starting pitcher receives a loss if she is relieved while her team is behind
and her team remains behind, regardless of the number of innings pitched.
9. A relief pitcher is the losing pitcher if she is the pitcher of record when the
opponents go ahead and stay ahead the rest of the game, NOTE: When
determining the score of the game when a pitcher is replaced, include runs for
which the replaced pitcher is charged even if they have not yet scored.


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by anonlooker » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:53 pm

Sam wrote:
Spazsdad wrote:Pitching: Winning and Losing Pitcher
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1. Credit the starting pitcher With a Win if she has pitched at least four total
innings, is ahead when replaced, and if the team stays ahead for the rest of the
game.
2. When a regulation game ends after five innings, the starting pitcher must pitch
three innings and her team must win in order to be credited with the win.
3. If the starting pitcher can't receive credit for the Win (not enough innings or her
team falls behind after she leaves), credit a single relief pitcher with the win.
4. If the starting pitcher can't receive credit for the Win (not enough innings or her
team falls behind after she leaves), and more than one relief pitcher is used
a - if the lead is never lost, credit the relief pitcher whose pitching is
most effective with the win, or
b - if the score is tied or the eventual winning team falls behind, the
relief pitcher who is the pitcher of record when her team gains the
lead and stays in the lead thereafter, is credited with the win
(Exception .- a brief or ineffective appearance followed by another
reliever who is effective in maintaining the lead does not receive
credit for the win; the effective reliever does).
5. No pitcher can receive credit for a win if the score becomes tied or her team falls
behind after she leaves the game, unless she comes back in and regains the lead.
6. If a pitcher is removed from the game offensively by a batter or runner, all runs
scored by her team are credited to her benefit in determining when her team is in
the lead.
7. A shutout is scored by pitching scoreless ball for the entire game or if the pitcher
did the same after relieving in the first inning before any outs or any score, (If two
or more pitchers combine for a shutout, note it in the record).
8. The starting pitcher receives a loss if she is relieved while her team is behind
and her team remains behind, regardless of the number of innings pitched.
9. A relief pitcher is the losing pitcher if she is the pitcher of record when the
opponents go ahead and stay ahead the rest of the game, NOTE: When
determining the score of the game when a pitcher is replaced, include runs for
which the replaced pitcher is charged even if they have not yet scored.


Please do not ask Spazsdad what time it is.....


...lest it read something like this:

The Beginning of Time

The Egyptians were the first people who created a twenty-four hour day. Time was a little bit different in those days. The night was divided up into twelve hours, which were designated by the position of stars in the sky. The day was divided into ten hours and a shadow clock was used to keep track of these hours. The twilight hours were the hours before dawn and after sunset.

The Egyptians thought they were the first to invent the shadow clock, but they were mistaken. At the same time, the Chinese, Babylonians, Greeks and the Romans were using instruments to tell time. Sundials were used in some of these groups, not because they work better, just because that's how they decided to tell time.

After a while, the Egyptians and other ancient societies realized that the sun rose and set in different places in the summer and winter. In fact, the sun never took the same course on any one day throughout the year! They tried everything, until they realized that if they would just put the post of the sundial in at a special angle, it would work all year.

The Sands of Time

The major fault with sundials and shadow clocks is obvious...They don't work at night! Amenophis I, the king of Egypt, wanted to know what time it was all through the night without having to check the position of the stars. As you can imagine, it would be inconvenient to get up and out of bed every time you want to know the time. So, Prince Amenemhet made the king a clepsydra or a water clock. He took a big bucket of water, filled it with water up to a specific line. He then cut a small hole in the bottom of the bucket and marked off lines on the bucket after each hour had passed.

There were, of course, some problems with this water clock as well. Water would flow more slowly or quickly when the temperature changed. This is where sand came into effect. The inventor of the sand clock is unknown but the sand clock or hourglass was commonly used in ancient times and is still used today. They are often found in board games or are used as kitchen timers. Is there an hourglass in your home?

The First Tick

The first mechanical clocks had a weight that would slowly lower, moving gears which moved a hand which showed the hour. They could only be build in tall towers because the weights needed to fall a great distance or else the clocks would only work for a short amount of time. People were amazed that these clocks were only off about 2 hours a day. Think if our clocks today were off by that much? If we were 2 hours late for school, we could blame it on the clock.

While these clocks were inaccurate long ago, some of them were created with such care that they still work today. In Normandy, France, a big clock exists that was built in 1389. In Salisbury, England you can see the oldest clock in the world, built in 1386. Today, cuckoo clocks are still built using a weight-dropping mechanism.

Galileo's Discovery

Galileo made an amazing contribution to the world of time, simply by not paying attention in church. The year was 1581 and Galileo was 17. He was standing in the Cathedral of Pisa watching the huge chandelier swinging back and forth from the ceiling of the cathedral. Galileo noticed that no matter how short or long the arc of the chandelier was, it took exactly the same amount of time to complete a full swing.

The chandelier gave Galileo the idea to create a pendulum clock. While the clock would eventually run of energy, it would keep accurate time until the pendulum stopped. If the pendulum was set swinging again before it stopped, there would never be a loss in accuracy. Because of this, pendulums caught on and are still widely used today. Can you imagine making such a big discovery?

The Contest

When sailors sailed across the ocean, they could only tell their position using two methods. When they were traveling from North to South, they could tell their position using Polaris, the North Star. But, when they were traveling from East to West, they ran into a problem. Pendulum clocks couldn't be used because the pendulums were highly sensitive and could be easily shaken, making the clocks inaccurate. In 1707, a British fleet crashed into the Scilly Islands, killing two thousand soldiers and destroying four ships. Seven years late, the British government offered twenty thousand pounds to whoever built a clock that would keep accurate time at sea. This clock would have to be accurate to the second, so as to avoid another unfortunate accident.

John Harrison, a carpenter, was the winner of the contest. In 1728, John heard about the contest and began work on a solution. Thirty-three years and three enormous clocks, John's small fourth clock was tested. When the testing crew arrived in Jamaica 161 days later, the clock was only five seconds off. John Harrison collected his prize money at the age of seventy-nine.

Time for Change

Since 1761, timekeeping has significantly changed. In 1900, pendulum clocks had been finely tuned so as to only be off by 1/100 of a second each day. In the '20s, scientists discovered quartz crystals could keep even more accurate time than a pendulum and were only off about 1/500 of a second each year. Half way through the 20th century, atomic clocks were built that would only be off by one second every 300 million years. Who really needs a clock that accurate?

It is evident that times have certainly changed. Clocks have made major leaps and bounds since the days of the shadow clock. Now we have accurate, reliable clocks that we can use day and night. Some of our clocks will run for years without so much as a change of batteries or a twist of a little knob. We have certainly developed the concept of time and incorporated it into every moment of our lives.

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by GIMNEPIWO » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:48 pm

Don't Bogart that joint my friend ... pass it over to me
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by anonlooker » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:13 pm

Came across this, perhaps the most peculiar 'pitcher of record' scenario I've ever heard of:

HOUSTON -- Joel Hanrahan earned his first win of the year the easy way -- hanging out in his hotel room.

And it was a victory that defied geography.

The Pittsburgh Pirates reliever was enjoying a day off in Philadelphia on Thursday when his former Washington Nationals teammates were finishing off a suspended game in Houston by winning 11-10 in the 11th inning and he was the winning pitcher.

"It's pretty funny," Hanrahan told the Associated Press by phone from Philadelphia, where the Pirates face the Phillies on Friday. "It feels pretty good in the situation that we're in. Houston is a team in our division and we gained ground."

How did he learn he finally has a win this season: "I got a bunch of text messages."

On May 5 in Washington, Hanrahan pitched the top of the 11th and was on deck when the game was suspended with the score tied 10-all because of rain. In the interim, he was included in the June 30 deal with Pittsburgh for Nyjer Morgan, who scored the winning run Thursday.

LaTroy Hawkins was on the mound for Houston and Hanrahan was looking forward to facing his friend, but the game was called with Josh Willingham about to bat and a runner on first.

"We gave each other a hard time," Hanrahan said of Hawkins, who got the loss.

The completion of the game was moved to Houston because the teams were not scheduled to play again in Washington this year.

Hawkins took the mound Thursday, and after giving up a single had a chance to get out of the inning with a potential double-play grounder from Josh Bard -- who was pinch hitting for Hanrahan -- but Miguel Tejada threw the ball away for his second error of the game and the winning run scored.

As a matter of the pitcher's record, it's a bit confusing -- especially for fantasy baseball participants. Hanrahan, still 0-0 with Pittsburgh, improved to 1-3 this season. He would have been 1-1 on May 5 had the Nationals won then.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:03 am

Funny Anon ...
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