Diving into first

[wadeintothem]

Yep, thats correct. I do wish ASA would follow suit to line up with the others.

I thought you were saying they couldnt dive back in NFHS which of course they can.

That is why I quoted him talking about the bunt rule.

My bad homie. I didnt read it as closely as I should have.

[MDSoftball]

Yep, thats correct. I do wish ASA would follow suit to line up with the others.

I thought you were saying they couldnt dive back in NFHS which of course they can.

That is why I quoted him talking about the bunt rule.

My bad homie. I didnt read it as closely as I should have.

Just messing with ya. I wear the blue shirt on the weekends too, so it is nice to get to be the picker instead of the pickee every once in awhile.

[MTR]

2009 NFHS SOFTBALL RULES CHANGES

ART. 2…Attempted Bunt. Holding of the bat in the strike zone is considered an attempted bunt. In order to take a pitch, the bat must be withdrawn – pulled backward and away from the ball.

Rationale: Changing the definition will make the bunt attempt easier for an umpire to determine and creates a better balance between offense and defense.

Ludicrous change and even more ludicrous reasoning.

[GIMNEPIWO]

2009 NFHS SOFTBALL RULES CHANGES

ART. 2…Attempted Bunt. Holding of the bat in the strike zone is considered an attempted bunt. In order to take a pitch, the bat must be withdrawn – pulled backward and away from the ball.

Rationale: Changing the definition will make the bunt attempt easier for an umpire to determine and creates a better balance between offense and defense.

Ludicrous change and even more ludicrous reasoning.

I thought so too ... how long before you think it is un-changed

[wadeintothem]

I agree in principle; however, when NCAA and NFHS both have the rule one way, it may be time to think about the change just for consistency for JO players. Its a fairly common rule across the land in many many rule sets; ASA is kind of the odd duck out on this one.

[coolstuff]

So what is the advantage to sliding headfirst into 1st? Is it quicker than running at full speed through the base? My opinion without any actual research to back it up, is "no." Considering that the original purpose of a slide at any other base is to avoid a tag, and not necessarily to get to the bag any quicker. That is just my opinion, and you're welcome to yours, but I sure would like to see some hard facts to support that sliding is better than running to 1st.

[Tucson]

I would have had to ask the umpire, what rule set he was using. That is an awful call. So, did the PU know why the base ump was calling her out?

That was grounds for protesting the game. If not, the ump can make up any rule the wants.

[3Bsnag]

We were talking about diving into 1B on another thread way back. I believe it has its place and people thought I was crazy.

Some umpires will always give the out if it's close on a run through. Not only is diving faster, but the umpires get out of their groove and will really watch closer since the dive into first is different. We always saved it for a do or die situations though.

Good for her for being that aggressive!

[wadeintothem]

I'm pretty sure mythbusters or someone else debunked diving as being faster. Logic tells you it would not be faster. I know I've seen a show on it. People dive running to first for "oh ah factor" not because its faster.

Since you are able to overrun 1B there is no compelling reason for a BR to dive into 1B IMO.

[MTR]

Some umpires will always give the out if it's close on a run through. Not only is diving faster, but the umpires get out of their groove and will really watch closer since the dive into first is different. We always saved it for a do or die situations though.

Good for her for being that aggressive!

Aahhhh.......nope. I believe you have it backwards. Diving or sliding into 1B for any reason other than to avoid the tag is more likely going to get you an out call. The run through will always be a more accurate call.