Anti-Clone wrote:GIMNEPIWO wrote:Anti-Clone wrote:GIMNEPIWO wrote:Anti-Clone wrote:An umpire can initiate a conversation with another umpire in order to discuss the application and interpretation of a rule.
An umpire cannot simply overturn another umpires call. They get away with this from time to time in football and basketball, but not baseball or softball.
NFHS 10-3-G ... Interesting that the PU can " make final decision on points not covered by the rules " ... It seems they should also make a final decision on points that are covered by the rules ...
No. The reason it says "plate umpire" is because if something isn't covered and the umpires can't agree on it, there needs to be a final decision and it's the plate umpire who decides.
Just like the plate umpire is solely responsible for determining whether a field is playable in most associations. That doesn't mean that both umpires can discuss it. It means that if they can't decide, the plate umpire gets to make the final decision.
Your proposal that the plate umpire be able to have the final decision on every call is preposterous.
Didn't say that ... So, either you're a hose head or misunderstood, or I mis-spoke ... What I am trying to say, is that if a BU mis-interprets the rules and the plate umpire knows this, shouldn't he be able to reverse the call ( after conference ) to manage the game,avoid protests, get the call right, etc. ...
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Please fill me in on the misinterpretation of a rule.
Again, not saying it IS a rule ... I am questioning why, that if the PU makes all final decisions on things not covered by the rules, shouldn't they also make all final decisions on things that are covered by the rules ? Doesn't someone need to be in charge in both situations ? Suppose you are behind the dish and the BU clearly mis-applies an OBS call ... OC or DC come out and questions the call ... A conference ensues between you and the BU and although you know he has mis-applied a rule and explain it to them, they won't change the call and stick with their mis-interpretation ... You let the OC/DC protest the game ( in some cases having to pony up a $100 fee )? You let the call stand ? It seems like there should be some chain of command on the field ...