ScubaGuy wrote:the Umps call was safe at 1st and 3rd with run scoring. Explination was even though she went to the dug out it was confusion. It was a little muddy but we agreed this would be a good case to study since we had it on video
Anti-Clone wrote:It depends on the rule set. In NCAA, the batter-runner is out for abandoning her base. Rule 12.12.5
ScubaGuy wrote:the Umps call was safe at 1st and 3rd with run scoring. Explination was even though she went to the dug out it was confusion. It was a little muddy but we agreed this would be a good case to study since we had it on video
GIMNEPIWO wrote:ScubaGuy wrote:the Umps call was safe at 1st and 3rd with run scoring. Explination was even though she went to the dug out it was confusion. It was a little muddy but we agreed this would be a good case to study since we had it on video
That is where I was going in citing 8-3-6 in a previous post ... Although I thought the Blues (said with no dis-respect) may have called the BR out and had the 'confusion going the other way ; " A runner shall not run the bases in reverse order either to confuse the fielders or make a travesty of the game ."
MTR wrote:GIMNEPIWO wrote:ScubaGuy wrote:the Umps call was safe at 1st and 3rd with run scoring. Explination was even though she went to the dug out it was confusion. It was a little muddy but we agreed this would be a good case to study since we had it on video
That is where I was going in citing 8-3-6 in a previous post ... Although I thought the Blues (said with no dis-respect) may have called the BR out and had the 'confusion going the other way ; " A runner shall not run the bases in reverse order either to confuse the fielders or make a travesty of the game ."
That is a very seldom used rule and more often, misused as justification of other actions that have nothing to do with the rule. There are too many variables to comfortably enforce this rule. Shy of a player running the bases in reverse order, waving her arms and screaming, "na na ne na na", good luck applying it.
To start, there needs to be intent shown. To where would the BR be running to confuse the other team? Was she trying to show up the umpire or cause discourse among the participants by going to pick-up the bat and return to the BB? How was doing that making a travesty of the game?
Think you are stretching a little on this one.
bigsig wrote:Just wondering, why does the BR returning to 1B have to be tagged? If she is returning to a base previously occupied during a live ball appeal, isn't touching the base with the ball enough?
Anti-Clone wrote:1) Attempting to advance to 2nd base after over-running 1st base;
MTR wrote:Anti-Clone wrote:1) Attempting to advance to 2nd base after over-running 1st base;
ASA has really screwed this one up as this is not an appeal play. Though stated as such, it does not meet the definition of an appeal play nor should it be considered as such.