When Does BR Become Live?

[GIMNEPIWO]

Thank you to the two umpires (Hugo and Steve) who were able to comprehend a simple question and provide a simple answer.

OK ... How did the batter reach first base ?

"After the batter/runner reaches 1b (safely), when does she become a "live" BR if she makes an attempt to advance to 2B?"

Was it a BB ? D3K ? A Swunt or a bunt ? The OP wasn't clear ... Are all situations where the batter reaches 1st base safely the same ?

With all due respect to Hugo, Steve, MTR & others who I look too often for clarifications and explainations

[UmpSteve]

Thank you to the two umpires (Hugo and Steve) who were able to comprehend a simple question and provide a simple answer.

OK ... How did the batter reach first base ?

"After the batter/runner reaches 1b (safely), when does she become a "live" BR if she makes an attempt to advance to 2B?"

Was it a BB ? D3K ? A Swunt or a bunt ? The OP wasn't clear ... Are all situations where the batter reaches 1st base safely the same ?

With all due respect to Hugo, Steve, MTR & others who I look too often for clarifications and explainations

Overthinking it, my friend. Rule section (ASA, anyway) 8-1 lists all cases where a batter becomes a batter-runner. UNLESS IT IS A DEAD BALL (hit by pitch), all batter-runners are treated equally, can legally overrun first base, etc. YES, even on a walk (another standard myth).

[GIMNEPIWO]

Thank you to the two umpires (Hugo and Steve) who were able to comprehend a simple question and provide a simple answer.

OK ... How did the batter reach first base ?

"After the batter/runner reaches 1b (safely), when does she become a "live" BR if she makes an attempt to advance to 2B?"

Was it a BB ? D3K ? A Swunt or a bunt ? The OP wasn't clear ... Are all situations where the batter reaches 1st base safely the same ?

With all due respect to Hugo, Steve, MTR & others who I look too often for clarifications and explainations

Overthinking it, my friend. Rule section (ASA, anyway) 8-1 lists all cases where a batter becomes a batter-runner. UNLESS IT IS A DEAD BALL (hit by pitch), all batter-runners are treated equally, can legally overrun first base, etc. YES, even on a walk (another standard myth).

Agree again ... OP did not state how BR reached first and was looking for possibilities ... including those covered in NFHS 8-7-4 a,b,c,d,& e ... the only book I had handy ...

[sofballin]

Thank you. I got the answer I was looking for.

For some reason, I always thought that so long as the base runner didn't cross the foul line in her attempt to advance to 2B, she could not be tagged out by the defense.

I see now that the foul line does not come into play in this situation.

[AlwaysImprove]

While not a rule, it is often a teaching mechanic. A lot of coaches, especially baseball, teach a turn to the right is a clear and unmistakable sign to everyone that you are not making an attempt to run to second base.

Turning to the right in baseball may make some sense. Once the bases go to 90 feet getting to second base is very rare, even on an overthrow. Percentage wise you are likely better waiting for the next pitch.

In softball, IMHO, it is better to teach a turn to the left mechanic. It allows the player to get a view of the entire defense and in softball opportunities do come up where you can find a way to get to second base.

[FastpitchUSA]

Turning left may be imply that the runner tried to advance. Players may want to "face" the infield instead of the fence when running through 1B.