Is Early Recruiting Right or Wrong? Kidz "n" Sports

[SDTitans]

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[Pale Rider]

Question!!!!!! "IF" an 8th grader is offered 100% from 10 of the top Schools/ programs in the country? She should wait until her JR./SR. year before she verbal? What else can you negotiate? Just a question, not a statement

99.9% of the players do not fall into this category even though many mommies and daddies think Precious is that good, so I think your statement is unrealistic.
I have had players verbal early, and it is no fun for them. Imagine a player being continuously hounded and watched by one school for 3-4 years before they sign their NLI.
Why is it that a top ten football player can wait until his senior year to commit but a top ten softball player has to do it her 8th grade/freshman year?

X2, local kid here had 4 SEC Schools to include Lord Saban come talk to...he didnt commit till his Jr year...BTW he graduated in 2015 and he played against AL...


As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

[jonriv]

Question!!!!!! "IF" an 8th grader is offered 100% from 10 of the top Schools/ programs in the country? She should wait until her JR./SR. year before she verbal? What else can you negotiate? Just a question, not a statement

The talking heads will tell you that may not be the right school for that particular DD.

I say college paid for and a chance at an education what could be more promising for ANY DD! Ever stop by those SAT prep places? You know the places countless numbers of young high schoolers and junior highers study and prepare so the have a "better chance" of getting into college. Please ask those kids and parents if they would say yes to an offer. Uhh yup!

Just sayin...

The SAT prep classes are so kids can get into a BETTER college and so they have a Better CHOICE of colleges. I also know of plenty of students that turned down scholarships(academic and/or athletic) from lesser schools to attend a better school. Just going to college is not enough anymore, the right school,the right major(s) and the right grades are more important than ever.

[jonriv]

verbal's mean nothing that sucks.....

Legally no, not binding. However, practically they are usually honored( at least partially) from all indications

Question is why they aren't honored JR. That's usually cause the DD under performs on the field or class room. Vast majority of cases isn't like they say. Rare cases is they find a better athlete. That's bad for business and they know it.

Like I said they promise whatever they promise financially and DD's promise to continue to develop. Fair trade!

Many are not honored as you said do to under performance on and off the field( a problem inherent to early commits because of the mistaken feeling of being done) Many times the coach will lower the offer or even pull if something better comes along- even if they do honor the commit, they will make the students freshmen year so rough they quit(and if they don't the coach pulls the scholarship)

We get to hear about the early commits, the bragging parent sweatshirts etc, what we never see is anyone bragging when their DD gets their scholarship pulled or lowered or they wind up quitting-do we??

[Dugout Dad]

As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

Not to mention 4 years worth of nacho sauce and hot dog chili stains.....

[Pale Rider]

As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

Not to mention 4 years worth of nacho sauce and hot dog chili stains.....

Agreed!

Something I see, is Imcommitteditis...seen plenty of kids let their ego override their ability...using the thought process of Go 0-4 with 5 errors..."So what...Im committed"

[tbjd33]

As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

Not to mention 4 years worth of nacho sauce and hot dog chili stains.....

Agreed!

Something I see, is Imcommitteditis...seen plenty of kids let their ego override their ability...using the thought process of Go 0-4 with 5 errors..."So what...Im committed"

You think just maybe this may be a reason an offer gets pulled?

Maybe we start a petition against "Imcommitteditis" to make all aware of the possible ramifications of this terrible disease...

Just sayin...

[fastpitchdad05]

As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

Not to mention 4 years worth of nacho sauce and hot dog chili stains.....

Agreed!

Something I see, is Imcommitteditis...seen plenty of kids let their ego override their ability...using the thought process of Go 0-4 with 5 errors..."So what...Im committed"

You think just maybe this may be a reason an offer gets pulled?

Maybe we start a petition against "Imcommitteditis" to make all aware of the possible ramifications of this terrible disease...

Just sayin...

Feels like someone needs to get the last word in.

Ok 33, stop dodging the question that's been asked of you more than once and tell us once and for all what is the advantage to the player and family of doing an early verbal?

It appears that everyone here including you agrees that a verbal is worthless so why bother?

[tbjd33]

As far as the sweat shirt...I BET the Dads tshirt wont fit either...

Not to mention 4 years worth of nacho sauce and hot dog chili stains.....

Agreed!

Something I see, is Imcommitteditis...seen plenty of kids let their ego override their ability...using the thought process of Go 0-4 with 5 errors..."So what...Im committed"

You think just maybe this may be a reason an offer gets pulled?

Maybe we start a petition against "Imcommitteditis" to make all aware of the possible ramifications of this terrible disease...

Just sayin...

Feels like someone needs to get the last word in.

Ok 33, stop dodging the question that's been asked of you more than once and tell us once and for all what is the advantage to the player and family of doing an early verbal?

It appears that everyone here including you agrees that a verbal is worthless so why bother?

That's easy... Couple reasons.

1) If it's a better school like Cal, Washinton, Northwestern, ND etc. Your DD can prepare and not sit and worry until her junior year. They can help guide her through the process and monitor her grades and progress. Remember she is the investment so it's in their interest to ensure she does well.

2) The obvious. All the money goes mostly to who gets there first. That's a fact! Of course there are offers later. Of course there are spots but it's much harder for larger percentages.

3) Can focus on improving instead of recruiting. Can use the college coach to help the growth process so when the time comes she is ready.

4) Verbaling at any time helps with admission to all schools. Even Stanford. They told us minimum requirements are 3.8 GPA and 1800 (600x3) to ensure admission. Much better than without softball right? I know I know they will only commit as early as summer between 9th and 10th. But that early for them.

5) Bigtime programs recruit early that's a fact. So if that's what is wanted then early you must go!

I'm sure there is more but thats off top of my head for now.

[jonriv]

A lot of circular reasoning and points that become moot if the rules were to change- but here goes it! Also, your "top ten" schools seems to be growing.....

That's easy... Couple reasons.

1) If it's a better school like Cal, Washinton, Northwestern, ND etc. Your DD can prepare and not sit and worry until her junior year. They can help guide her through the process and monitor her grades and progress. Remember she is the investment so it's in their interest to ensure she does well.
She still needs to worry(probably even more so) about her grades, because currently if her grades do not meet the standard, where does she go???
2) The obvious. All the money goes mostly to who gets there first. That's a fact! Of course there are offers later. Of course there are spots but it's much harder for larger percentages.

If the rules change, everyone is in line to be first and there is not an artificial arms race of committing early. As it is now, parents/players feel pressured to commit early

3) Can focus on improving instead of recruiting. Can use the college coach to help the growth process so when the time comes she is ready.

4) Verbaling at any time helps with admission to all schools. Even Stanford. They told us minimum requirements are 3.8 GPA and 1800 (600x3) to ensure admission. Much better than without softball right? I know I know they will only commit as early as summer between 9th and 10th. But that early for them.

Is it Softball or Verbaling early??? Many schools "broaden the box" for athletes(many do not) In many cases coach's have certain "slots" allocated to them, but they are not used until actual admissions

5) Bigtime programs recruit early that's a fact. So if that's what is wanted then early you must go!

Circular reasoning- If the rules were changed this would not be the case