Sam wrote:jonriv wrote:PDad wrote:IMO, retaliating for stealing signs/locations is a neanderthal response by people not smart enough to play/coach properly. You should thank them for being obvious about it so you fix the real problem. The better teams won't let on they're stealing signs.
Pitchers need to be doing everything possible to conceal their grips and also not tip their pitches before anyone thinks about retaliating.
Perfect response!!!!!
Not really. The pitcher needs to hide their grips brom the BATTER. The 3B coach gets to see a RH pitcher take the ball out of the glove and make a 540 degree revolution with the pitch, allowing some coaches to send verbal signals to the batter. It's clearly a bullshit move by the coach taking advantage of a situation that can't be controlled by the pitcher. The 1B coach is normally not savvy enough to do the same with LH pitchers. I have no issues with a pitcher sending the opponent a message when this is happening.
First, I didn't say the pitcher could completely hide her grip - only they need to do what's possible. Second, there's little-to-no opportunity for a coach to recognize the grip, verbalize it and have the batter act on the info if the pitcher conceals their grip while taking it and doesn't pause during their backswing. The coach has to recognize and verbalize the pitch before the forward revolution begins for it to help the batter.