PDad wrote:From an academic standpoint, JCs like Orange Coast and Goldenwest have had a lot of success in the past counseling students to take the right classes so they can transfer into a 4-year as a junior and graduate in just 2 more years.
I can guarantee you that Cypress does not help in the counceling area to guide the students in the right academic direction. But, with any JUCO, it needs to be the student that makes sure they are taking the classes needed to transfer. I know way too many kids that take the coahces recommended classes and then do not have what it takes to transfer.
I specifically mentioned OCC and Goldenwest because I've periodically seen stories about the success of their Transfer Centers. The OCC website boasts "For the past decade, Orange Coast College has transferred more students to four-year colleges and universities than any other community college in Southern California. We offer courses that fulfill lower division (freshman and sophomore) general education and major requirements in most areas of study. At Orange Coast, you can complete your freshman and sophomore coursework, then transfer to the college or university of your choice......as a junior!"
Unfortunately, some coaches at all levels - HS, JC and universities - provide bad academic advice. Those coaches are often more concerned about their player's eligibility for the season than their longterm being.
To be fair, quite a few students are behind academically and have to take remedial classes. They simply are not prepared and/or ready to start taking the classes they need to graduate from a college in 4 years.
I agree the ultimate responsibility is with the student. Most/many JCs - including Cypress - have resources available to help them (e.g. a Transfer Center), but the students have to take advantage of it. They need to recognize which resource is better able to help them in the long run.