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by SSdad » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:20 pm

seniorsbfart wrote:Our Irish friend is correct. Rolling a composite bat is not altering bat in the least. It only speeds up the break in process and on the new standard ASA it really will not affect the bat at all.


Isn't that because they are rolling the bat at the factory, so at max break in it's 98mph?
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by AlwaysImprove » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:45 pm

seniorsbfart wrote:Our Irish friend is correct. Rolling a composite bat is not altering bat in the least. It only speeds up the break in process and on the new standard ASA it really will not affect the bat at all.


I disagree. The only reason to roll a bat is to make it more lively. The rules specifically state you are not allowed to alter the properties of the bat. Even if consider this to be 'only speeds up the break in process' it is still against the rules. Beating your bat on a pole, would be similarly altering the make up of the bat and against the rules.

Also, IMHO hitting thousands of balls for the purpose of breaking a bat is against the rules. Hitting thousands of balls to improve your swing using the same bat is allowed.

I agree, from a safety perspective there is little difference from a heavily used cf4 to a rolled cf4, but from a rules perspective they are different.

Manufacturers are not rolling bats at the factory.

ASA has changed the testing process and added a step for rolling bats to simulate the break in of a bat. This is so that they can make sure that after a bat is broken in, that it will not violate the 98 mph standard.
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by sportsaz » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:49 pm

I am not a fan of rolling for different reasons. As a manufacture on composite bats rolling is very bad for the bat and voids the warranty. It is not a good idea in any case. Your bat will break in as a matter of course as you use it, rolling it will not really help that process and will shorten the life of the bat.
The factory I represent is working on a domed end cap that becomes part of the bat and is not removable.
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by Seventy7Pop » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:22 am

shaving bats is just another way of cheating :roll:
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by broadband » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:56 pm

seniorsbfart wrote:Our Irish friend is correct. Rolling a composite bat is not altering bat in the least. It only speeds up the break in process and on the new standard ASA it really will not affect the bat at all.


This is completely false. The characteristics of the bat, or the break-in of the bat may not artificially be altered by rolling/shaving/etc vs. normal bat use break-in. New composite bats such as the Easton Synergy (Green), you can see the breakdown of the material in the wall of the bat, and you can feel it in the barrel. Any ripples, or discoloration, its gone. Minor dents in aluminum bats, they are gone. Do some reading in the ASA book. Rule 3-1. (H to be specific to the above comment)

3 - 1 - H. Approved bats shall not be rolled, shaved or modified to change their characteristics from that produced by the manufacturer and shall be considered an Altered Bat.
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